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Help - Info for JetHawk II
bildan wrote:
On Feb 15, 4:35 pm, Dana M. Hague wrote: On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 07:28:04 -0800 (PST), bildan wrote: A glider tug is one of the few airplanes where the 0 - 60 acceleration time matters since you have to get the glider up to an airspeed where the ailerons are effective enough to balance on a single wheel. 30 knots is in the middle of that range. A glider tug looks like a nearly perfect application for a ducted fan. I think not. Ducted fans are horribly inefficient at low airspeeds. For that matter, they're not that great at higher speeds, either. -Dana -- "Next year in Galt's Gulch!" Ignorance! The high bypass turbofans used on airliners is a ducted fan that is very efficient at high subsonic speeds. At speeds below 80 knots, a ducted fan is more than 4 times more efficient than an open prop. It's just in the middle speed range that the drag of the duct offsets the gain in efficiency. It's efficient - compared to a jet... |
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Help - Info for JetHawk II
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:18:10 -0800 (PST), bildan
wrote: Ignorance! The high bypass turbofans used on airliners is a ducted fan that is very efficient at high subsonic speeds. At speeds below 80 knots, a ducted fan is more than 4 times more efficient than an open prop. It's just in the middle speed range that the drag of the duct offsets the gain in efficiency. A high bypass turbofan is a very different beast than a piston powered fan. Max thrust at low speeds is gotten by accelerating a lot of air a little bit (i.e. big prop, flat pitch). That's not the definition of a ducted fan. Also fan to duct clearances have to be REALLY small for best efficiency... difficult to achieve with the inherent vibrations of a piston engine without a very heavy structure. -Dana -- There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count & those who can't. |
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