Sad day for Mxsmanic

Mike Ash writes:

The bit in the article where he talks about a simmer being asked to land
a passenger plane after the pilots have been debilitated is pretty
funny. Absolutely no mention whatsoever of the difficulty or
improbability of actually pulling off such a feat. It is simply assumed
that it could be done.

It can easily be done.

Large commercial transports are heavily automated, and most flights are
conducted under computer control for most of their durations. With the
automation in operation, no particular flying skill is required to keep the
aircraft flying, and since the automation can also land the aircraft, no
particularly flying skill is required for landing, either.

Because of this, any person of reasonable intelligence who can follow
instructions precisely can land an airliner, with help over the radio from a
pilot.

Many people imagine a non-pilot grabbing the yoke and wrestling the aircraft
to the ground, Hollywood-style, and that type of scenario is indeed
implausible and likely to end in failure. But it's a very unrealistic
scenario, because in reality the automation would fly the plane, and the
non-pilot would never have to touch the controls. As long as he can follow
instructions, press buttons, and turn dials, he can land the airplane (or,
more precisely, he can direct the computer to land the airplane).

This has already been demonstrated on multiple occasions in full-motion sims.
In fact, some people are able to land airliners by hand without any previous
instruction, as long as they have an instructor to guide them. It's not
rocket science.

It's actually easier to land an airliner than it is to land a small aircraft,
because small aircraft usually have only limited automation, just as small
aircraft pilots usually have no clue about how large airliners work, and tend
to assume that everything flies like their Cessnas.

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Mxsmanic wrote:

Mike Ash writes:

The bit in the article where he talks about a simmer being asked to land
a passenger plane after the pilots have been debilitated is pretty
funny. Absolutely no mention whatsoever of the difficulty or
improbability of actually pulling off such a feat. It is simply assumed
that it could be done.

It can easily be done.

When it's tested, either with an actual in-flight crisis or by having
somebody set it up as an experiment, then I will believe it. Until then,
please do not act as though the unknown is certain.

And no, I don't mean testing it in a simulator.

--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon

Mike Ash writes:

When it's tested, either with an actual in-flight crisis or by having
somebody set it up as an experiment, then I will believe it. Until then,
please do not act as though the unknown is certain.

And no, I don't mean testing it in a simulator.

The simulators are good enough for the FAA and the airlines, so they're good
enough for me.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Mike Ash writes:

When it's tested, either with an actual in-flight crisis or by having
somebody set it up as an experiment, then I will believe it. Until then,
please do not act as though the unknown is certain.

And no, I don't mean testing it in a simulator.

The simulators are good enough for the FAA and the airlines, so they're
good
enough for me.


Found a photo of you online Anthony.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/wp-cont..._your_ass2.jpg

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Mike Ash writes:

When it's tested, either with an actual in-flight crisis or by having
somebody set it up as an experiment, then I will believe it. Until then,
please do not act as though the unknown is certain.

And no, I don't mean testing it in a simulator.

The simulators are good enough for the FAA and the airlines, so they're
good
enough for me.

Anything is good enough for you. You are satisfied to live in a hole in
France.

"Maxwell" #$$9#@%%%.^^^ wrote in message
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Mike Ash writes:

When it's tested, either with an actual in-flight crisis or by having
somebody set it up as an experiment, then I will believe it. Until then,
please do not act as though the unknown is certain.

And no, I don't mean testing it in a simulator.

The simulators are good enough for the FAA and the airlines, so they're
good
enough for me.

Anything is good enough for you. You are satisfied to live in a hole in
France.

Sez the inbred who is satisfied to live in the ******** called Okieland.

What a moran.
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/n/U/moran.jpg

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Mike Ash writes:

The bit in the article where he talks about a simmer being asked to land
a passenger plane after the pilots have been debilitated is pretty
funny. Absolutely no mention whatsoever of the difficulty or
improbability of actually pulling off such a feat. It is simply assumed
that it could be done.

It can easily be done.


No it cannot. It would end in disaster.

Steve Foley writes:

No it cannot. It would end in disaster.

Why?

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Steve Foley writes:

No it cannot. It would end in disaster.

Why?


For the same reason I'm really good at killing zombies on my computer, it
isn't real life you nitwit.

"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com writes:

For the same reason I'm really good at killing zombies on my computer, it
isn't real life you nitwit.

Unfortunately, that's not an answer. The reality is that there is no basis
for your assertion.

It has long been taken as gospel that a non-pilot could never land an
airliner, and as long as one sticks to the outdated assumption that he'd have
to actually take the controls, that's probably true. But today's airliners
are so heavily automated that they can be flown and landed without ever
touching the flight controls, so the dogma of yesteryear is no longer
applicable.