Sad day for Mxsmanic

"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com writes:

Having someone instruct you set the plane up to autoland is not you flying
an airliner to landing.

By whose definition?

The question was whether or not a non-pilot could land an airliner safely.
The answer is yes. Restricting the scenario to hand-flying only--something
that even the regular pilots don't normally do--is excessively artificial and
irrelevant, rather akin to saying that the pilots aren't really controlling
the airplane unless they turn off the hydraulics and move the control surfaces
with muscle power alone.

Mxsmanic wrote:
"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com writes:

Having someone instruct you set the plane up to autoland is not you flying
an airliner to landing.

By whose definition?

The question was whether or not a non-pilot could land an airliner safely.
The answer is yes. Restricting the scenario to hand-flying only--something
that even the regular pilots don't normally do--is excessively artificial and
irrelevant, rather akin to saying that the pilots aren't really controlling
the airplane unless they turn off the hydraulics and move the control surfaces
with muscle power alone.

Babbling nonsense.


--
Jim Pennino

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On Feb 23, 6:29*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com writes:
Having someone instruct you set the plane up to autoland is not you flying
an airliner to landing.

By whose definition?

The question was whether or not a non-pilot could land an airliner safely..
The answer is yes. *Restricting the scenario to hand-flying only--something
that even the regular pilots don't normally do--is excessively artificial and
irrelevant, rather akin to saying that the pilots aren't really controlling
the airplane unless they turn off the hydraulics and move the control surfaces
with muscle power alone.

It seems to me it is a safe assertion for MX to make, since he does
not fly and therefore never exposes himself to the 'risk' or
opportunity of demonstrating his claim. Now, consider for a moment
those circumstances where both pilots were rendered unable to fly. The
most probable thing is probably some very serious physical accident in
the cockpit. It would not be 'neat', would it? The call would be for
someone who can fly a very likely crippled airplane, with no "stop-
reset-start" provision.

On Feb 24, 3:29*pm, a wrote:
Now, consider for a moment
those circumstances where both pilots were rendered unable to fly. The
most probable thing is probably some very serious physical accident in
the cockpit. It would not be 'neat', would it? The call would be for
someone who can fly a very likely crippled airplane, with no "stop-
reset-start" provision.

Such a scenario that both pilots are impaired doesn't bode well for
the pax or the hull insurance

a wrote:
Now, consider for a moment
those circumstances where both pilots were rendered unable to fly. The
most probable thing is probably some very serious physical accident in
the cockpit. It would not be 'neat', would it? The call would be for
someone who can fly a very likely crippled airplane, with no "stop-
reset-start" provision.

Maybe, maybe not. It could be from the in-flight beverages / snacks --
if they're shared at the front office. I never eat the peanuts on
Southwest, just so I can be standy in such an event. A few hours in
piston singles, eh that'll help.
T

On Feb 24, 12:27*pm, Tman wrote:
a wrote:

* Now, consider for a moment those circumstances where both pilots were rendered unable to fly. The
most probable thing is probably some very serious physical accident in
the cockpit. It would not be 'neat', would it? The call would be for
someone who can fly a very likely crippled airplane, with no "stop-
reset-start" provision.

Maybe, maybe not. *It could be from the in-flight beverages / snacks --
if they're shared at the front office. *I never eat the peanuts on
Southwest, just so I can be standy in such an event. *A few hours in
piston singles, eh that'll help.
T

You may want to consider having some of those olives that are
marinated in a clear fluid as a preflight prep if you are believing
not eating peanuts will help. That has to be way out on the likely
distribution curve.

Now, if I was in an airplane that was undergoing a dual pilot failure
and an overweight guy stood up and said "I am MX, and I'll take over"
I'd be wanting some of those olives myself.

I'm reminded of that old joke about a man collapsing and a woman
bending over to help, only to be pushed aside by a (MX-like) character
who said "stand back, I am trained as a first responder." She said
"Good, when you get to that part that says call a doctor, I'll be
right here."

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I'm reminded of that old joke about a man collapsing and a woman
bending over to help, only to be pushed aside by a (MX-like) character
who said "stand back, I am trained as a first responder." She said
"Good, when you get to that part that says call a doctor, I'll be
right here."


Not even a joke really.
My dad WAS a doctor, and he was called to the scene of an accident one day. A
worker had fallen off a roof, and possibly broken his back or neck. When my dad
got there, there was a guy in a sort of khaki uniform giving orders, telling
everyone what to do, and preparing to pick the patient up. When my dad went to
the patient to perform some basic workup, to find the extent of his injuries,
he was pushed away by the guy in charge, who told him he had the situation
"under control". Not being one to be brushed away like that he asked the
identity of the man in uniform - he was a local milk deliveryman. The dairy had
decided only a short time earlier it would improve their "patriotic" image to
have their drivers dress in nearly military garb. Maybe MX's dad?