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There's also the psychological issue that most people think without
constant "tending" of the airplane by both the pilots and air traffic
control, an airplane will fall out of the sky.

Not everyone believes that.

Your average person would likely be paralyzed by fear if told they had
to land the airplane.

I seriously doubt that. Most people aren't quite that irrational, especially
under pressure.

Then there is the practical issue of finding someone who can tell a
totally ignorant person how to find the necessary buttons to push
and what to enter entirely from memory for a given random aircraft
type. There is a reason for type training by airlines.

You can put the instructor in a sim, and it's not hard to locate the buttons.

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There's also the psychological issue that most people think without
constant "tending" of the airplane by both the pilots and air traffic
control, an airplane will fall out of the sky.

Not everyone believes that.

Wrong yet again; most people do in fact believe that.

Your average person would likely be paralyzed by fear if told they had
to land the airplane.

I seriously doubt that. Most people aren't quite that irrational, especially
under pressure.

Having seen the reactions people who have actually been trained to
respond in pressure situations, I can assure you that it is true.

Then there is the practical issue of finding someone who can tell a
totally ignorant person how to find the necessary buttons to push
and what to enter entirely from memory for a given random aircraft
type. There is a reason for type training by airlines.

You can put the instructor in a sim, and it's not hard to locate the buttons.

How many realistic sims down to the switch position level for any given
random aircraft do you thing exist in the world given they cost millions
of dollars?


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Having seen the reactions people who have actually been trained to
respond in pressure situations, I can assure you that it is true.

I have also seen these reactions, and they do not match your assertion.

How many realistic sims down to the switch position level for any given
random aircraft do you thing exist in the world given they cost millions
of dollars?

Quite a few ... and you only need one.

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Having seen the reactions people who have actually been trained to
respond in pressure situations, I can assure you that it is true.

I have also seen these reactions, and they do not match your assertion.

I highly doubt someone who is admittedly afraid of just about everything
in life has been in many life or death situations, if any at all.

How many realistic sims down to the switch position level for any given
random aircraft do you thing exist in the world given they cost millions
of dollars?

Quite a few ... and you only need one.

Quite a few amounts to a very small number scattered about the globe
and ATC has no phone list of such simulators, much less a list sorted
by aircraft type, and the numbers of people qualified to run such a
simulator.

You are delusional.


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Quite a few amounts to a very small number scattered about the globe
and ATC has no phone list of such simulators, much less a list sorted
by aircraft type, and the numbers of people qualified to run such a
simulator.

I'm reminded of a cartoon in which someone picks up a phone, dials a number,
and hears "U.S. Government, may I help you?"

ATC doesn't need phone lists of simulators or airline pilots or anything of
the kind.

Even I can find an instructor pilot in a few minutes with a few calls. Air
traffic control facilities can do the same thing, only much faster and much
more easily.

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Quite a few amounts to a very small number scattered about the globe
and ATC has no phone list of such simulators, much less a list sorted
by aircraft type, and the numbers of people qualified to run such a
simulator.

I'm reminded of a cartoon in which someone picks up a phone, dials a number,
and hears "U.S. Government, may I help you?"

ATC doesn't need phone lists of simulators or airline pilots or anything of
the kind.

Even I can find an instructor pilot in a few minutes with a few calls. Air
traffic control facilities can do the same thing, only much faster and much
more easily.

So ATC facilities have magic telephones?

Give it a try and see if you can find someone qualified to run a simulator
for a Boeing 757.


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So ATC facilities have magic telephones?

No, but they have people with useful qualifications who can think fast when
problems arise.

Give it a try and see if you can find someone qualified to run a simulator
for a Boeing 757.

I'm two telephone calls away from such a person. I'm sure ATC centers are
much closer.

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Quite a few amounts to a very small number scattered about the globe
and ATC has no phone list of such simulators, much less a list sorted
by aircraft type, and the numbers of people qualified to run such a
simulator.

I'm reminded of a cartoon in which someone picks up a phone, dials a
number,
and hears "U.S. Government, may I help you?"

ATC doesn't need phone lists of simulators or airline pilots or anything
of
the kind.

Even I can find an instructor pilot in a few minutes with a few calls.
Air
traffic control facilities can do the same thing, only much faster and
much
more easily.

You're a liar.