Sad day for Mxsmanic

On Mar 1, 2:26*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Mike Ash writes:
Never, ever said it was. All I ever said was that there is a time limit..

There's always a time limit. *But it will typically be extremely generous
compared to the time required to find a qualified instructor.

They need to be in a position where they can be found and called in,
with enough time left over to find an identical airplane (or equivalent
simulator) and talk the guy down.

Unless they live at the North Pole, it shouldn't take too long.

I'm not saying it can't be done. But it is a challenge and it has not
been demonstrated that it can be reliably overcome.

Just getting a large number of airplanes to land safely in poor weather
conditions is a substantial challenge, but air traffic controllers meet that
challenge daily. *The mere fact that it might seem insurmountably difficult to
you doesn't mean that it would be difficult for others.

I've never said that it's impossible, merely that it has not been
demonstrated to be possible ...

Since it has not been demonstrated, asserting that it is difficult has no
greater empirical basis than asserting that it is easy, at best.

... and the gleeful self-assurance demonstrated by both yourself
and the author of the article in question are therefore not backed up by
reality.

Neither is it invalidated by reality.

MX wrote


Just getting a large number of airplanes to land safely in poor weather
conditions is a substantial challenge, but air traffic controllers meet that
challenge daily. The mere fact that it might seem insurmountably difficult to
you doesn't mean that it would be difficult for others.

I would point out controllers get a large number of airplanes to land
safely. All they do is provide seperation so the pilots can land the
airplanes safely.

a writes:

I would point out controllers get a large number of airplanes to land
safely. All they do is provide seperation so the pilots can land the
airplanes safely.

Before they did that, some pilots never got the opportunity to land.

Seventy years ago, just flying into clouds could spell the end of a commercial
flight.

Anyway, we have to admit it is possible to do.
I've personally seen it done. Karen Black did it in 1975. In a 747 no less.
You just talk on the radio, and the guy tells you what buttons to press.
When it comes time to land, this guy jumps out of a heliciopter and climbs in
the cockpit to land the plane.

And that, as MX explains, is "as real as it gets". . .

On Mar 1, 5:25*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
a writes:
I would point out controllers get a large number of airplanes to land
safely. All they do is *provide seperation so the pilots can land the
airplanes safely.

Before they did that, some pilots never got the opportunity to land.

Seventy years ago, just flying into clouds could spell the end of a commercial
flight.

What part of "so pilots can land the planes safely" did you not
understand? Reading comprehension problems too? You'd be an
interesting case study for one of my undergrad students who is trying
to find her way through the DSM.

On Mar 1, 11:25*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
a writes:
I would point out controllers get a large number of airplanes to land
safely. All they do is *provide seperation so the pilots can land the
airplanes safely.
Not
Before they did that, some pilots never got the opportunity to land.

Seventy years ago, just flying into clouds could spell the end of a commercial
flight.

The no visual reverence problem was solved by Sperry eighty years ago.

Cheers

Varactor writes:

The no visual reverence problem was solved by Sperry eighty years ago.

Then why do pilots still crash regularly after entering IMC?

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Varactor writes:

The no visual reverence problem was solved by Sperry eighty years ago.

Then why do pilots still crash regularly after entering IMC?

They don't, dumb ass, that's a rare occurrence.

On Mar 2, 11:50*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Varactor writes:
The no visual reverence problem was solved by Sperry eighty years ago.

Then why do pilots still crash regularly after entering IMC?

You think they do when IR? But your observation is a non-sequiteur and
largely sophist.

Cheers

Varactor writes:

You think they do when IR?

No, I think they do when they are not instrument-rated. Most private pilots
do not have an IR.

The point being, of course, that inadequate familiarity and practice with
instrument procedures, and/or inadequate equipment on board the aircraft, can
lead to problems.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Varactor writes:

You think they do when IR?

No, I think they do when they are not instrument-rated. Most private pilots
do not have an IR.

The point being, of course, that inadequate familiarity and practice with
instrument procedures, and/or inadequate equipment on board the aircraft, can
lead to problems.

No, your point was to attempt to take a shot at the real pilots you hate
so much.


--
Jim Pennino

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