Sad day for Mxsmanic

"Ibby" wrote in message
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You are really stuck on this warning bell thing. Have you had your
hearing
tested lately?

Because that is one issue you lot said directly to myself was a LIE.
You lot made out that EVERYTHING we say is utter CRAP. I originally
questioned how I couldn't understand how the russian pilot failed to
notice the AP being switched off as I know from both the sim and
videos on real flightdecks that the Boeing 747 and 737's have them but
according to you lot THEY DONT because the 'desk pilot' says so. But
do I get an educated response saying 'well as we are only GA pilots
and also haven't physically flown a 747 you may be correct but this
particular Russian model didnt have an alarm' we just get a childish
'f@=k you'

Ibby

No, but now you are a liar. I never said any such thing, simboi.

Clark writes:

And a Russian Airbus crashed after an undetected autopilot disconnect. Now do
you have a clue?

Airbus? Well, all bets are off if you're flying a Scarebus.

You must be talking about Flight 593, with kids in the cockpit. Substantial
movement of the control column by one of the captain's kids visiting the
cockpit triggered a cancellation of roll-mode AP control, which in the
Scarebus is not audibly annunciated. It didn't take long for the pilots to
notice something was amiss, but by the time they figured it all out and got
the airplane under control, they were too low, and they crashed.

The mere fact that the captain let his kids touch the controls tends to imply
that the crew was incompetent to begin with.

Next, look up the Century series of autopilots. I'll guarantee you that they
don't give any audible alert when they disconnect. Don't even try to argue
this one since I have one in my aircraft.

Are you flying a 747 or an A380?

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Clark writes:

And a Russian Airbus crashed after an undetected autopilot disconnect.
Now do
you have a clue?

Airbus? Well, all bets are off if you're flying a Scarebus.

You must be talking about Flight 593, with kids in the cockpit.
Substantial
movement of the control column by one of the captain's kids visiting the
cockpit triggered a cancellation of roll-mode AP control, which in the
Scarebus is not audibly annunciated. It didn't take long for the pilots
to
notice something was amiss, but by the time they figured it all out and
got
the airplane under control, they were too low, and they crashed.

The mere fact that the captain let his kids touch the controls tends to
imply
that the crew was incompetent to begin with.

Next, look up the Century series of autopilots. I'll guarantee you that
they
don't give any audible alert when they disconnect. Don't even try to
argue
this one since I have one in my aircraft.

Are you flying a 747 or an A380?

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Now this is just childish.

Most of this group argue that a simmer has NO knowledge whatsoever of
what occurs inside a real aircraft because he has never set foot
inside that model for which he is 'familiar' with.
When evidence is placed in front of you that a REAL 747-400 has an
audible alarm on autopilot disengagement you still throw insults back
saying 'you are wrong'.

Going back to the original comments on whether a novice could land
this aircraft on an emergency under guidance this entire video clip
clearly shows all that is required. ATC are giving the pilot heading,
speed and altitude commands and he is adjusting the MCP. He is NOT
flying the aircraft, the autopilot is and with adequate instruction
others could adjust the appropriate knobs too as the are ALL on the
Mode Control Panel (as clearly demonstrated on this clip). The AP is
controlling the throttles and elevator trim etc to maintain the course
etc as entered on the MCP. The pilot COULD have done a full autoland
on runway 28L as LAND3, Rollout and Flare were all armed and confirmed
by the pilot. By switching on the autobrakes the autopilot and
autothrottle system would have cut the throttles at 50ft, flared the
aircraft and autobraked whilst keeping the aircraft on the centreline
without the pilot even touching the controls or manual braking. If
you dont believe it go ask a 747-400 captain.

Ibby

Clark writes:

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Are you flying a 747 or an A380?

Butt out dumbass. No one asked for your ignorance to be displayed here.

I'll take that as a "neither."

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Clark writes:

Mxsmanic wrote in
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Are you flying a 747 or an A380?

Butt out dumbass. No one asked for your ignorance to be displayed here.

I'll take that as a "neither."

Might as well, you pull all your other assumptions out of your ass.

Next, look up the Century series of autopilots. I'll guarantee you that they
don't give any audible alert when they disconnect. Don't even try to argue
this one since I have one in my aircraft.

Sheesh, some people...

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Well perhaps this model didn't have an alarm even though they bloody
should have and this accident has clearly proven the need for all
aircraft to have them.
My comments were based on my 'knowledge' of Boeings and a great number
of your common GA aircraft. It doesnt matter how I know this either
via the sim, reading or videos, the simple fact is Boeing have an
alarm but because an honest and accurate comment about a 747-400 comes
from either MX or myself or millions of other sim users (even real
pilots who do both) it means ****all on this group

On Mar 10, 8:51*am, Ibby wrote:
*It doesnt matter how I know this either
via the sim, reading or videos, the simple fact is Boeing have an
alarm but because an honest and accurate comment about a 747-400 comes
from either MX or myself or millions of other sim users (even real
pilots who do both) it means ****all on this group

Yup. You finally twigged it.
Return at all haste to your 'sim' group and leave we poor real time
pilots to wallow in reality.

On Mar 9, 8:02*pm, george wrote:
On Mar 10, 8:51*am, Ibby wrote:

*It doesnt matter how I know this either
via the sim, reading or videos, the simple fact is Boeing have an
alarm but because an honest and accurate comment about a 747-400 comes
from either MX or myself or millions of other sim users (even real
pilots who do both) it means ****all on this group

Yup. You finally twigged it.
Return at all haste to your 'sim' group and leave we poor real time
pilots to wallow in reality.

So George why not go ask a REAL 747-400 pilot to confirm all that has
been said here and what is 'reality'. A 747-400 HAS an alarm, plain
simple, to argue against that you're bloody stupid. Even if I wasn't
a simmer I know a real one has it on it's systems

george writes:

Return at all haste to your 'sim' group and leave we poor real time
pilots to wallow in reality.

Since the behavior of the sim matches the behavior of the real aircraft, what
reality is lacking in simulation?