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Old March 5th 09, 12:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ibby
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Hell, the theroy is that Eastern Airlines flight 401 crashed because
the Captain bumped the yoke while just turning to talk to the copilot
and didn't know he had changed modes. *It happened.


I cannot see how you wouldn't know the autopilot has been disconnected
as there is a very loud audible warning when this occurs as well as a
warning master switch above the PFD that the pilot cannot miss on
737/747 aircraft and I'm sure Airbus have it too

Ibby
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Old March 5th 09, 02:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Ibby" wrote in message
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Hell, the theroy is that Eastern Airlines flight 401 crashed because
the Captain bumped the yoke while just turning to talk to the copilot
and didn't know he had changed modes. It happened.


I cannot see how you wouldn't know the autopilot has been disconnected
as there is a very loud audible warning when this occurs as well as a
warning master switch above the PFD that the pilot cannot miss on
737/747 aircraft and I'm sure Airbus have it too

Ibby

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Yeah, but you can't seem to see a lot of things, like reality for openers.


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Old March 8th 09, 11:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Yeah, but you can't seem to see a lot of things, like reality for openers.


I'm sorry but that is just a bloody stupid reply so please try to grow
up this thread is full of childish etiquette. ANY real life
commercial aircraft has a VERY LOUD audible ALARM when the Autopilot
is disengaged (as well as a flashing red master caution switch) either
via the control bar on the MCP panel, the switch on the yoke or by
moving the control column excessively as in the case of an emergency.
The entire crew on the flight deck WOULD hear it. My comments have
NOTHING what so ever to do with using a flight sim they ARE based on
what DOES happen in a 737 and 747 for a start and sure the same on any
Airbus as well.

Ibby
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Old March 9th 09, 12:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Ibby" wrote in message news:05c5bdae-edf3-4329-86d5-

No your not. You are hear to create noise and confusion, just like your
brother MX.


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Old March 9th 09, 07:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ibby
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On Mar 9, 12:43*pm, "Maxwell" #$$9#@%%%.^^^ wrote:
"Ibby" wrote in message news:05c5bdae-edf3-4329-86d5-

No your not. You are hear to create noise and confusion, just like your
brother MX.


This has NOTHING to do with MX, this has NOTHING to DO with Flight
Sims, this HAS to do with WHAT DOES HAPPEN on a flightdeck.
God man watch some videos, ask a real commercial pilot and stop bloody
denouncing everything ppl say. Now I do not know what faults in the
accident reported caused the pilot not to know the autopilot was
disengaged but on the majority of aircraft from the past 15 years
there is an ALARM. Even your basic Cessna's have an alarm when you
disengage it and resume manual flight control.
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Old March 9th 09, 07:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Ibby" wrote in message news:8eece7d0-8289-4053-97b9-

No mater how many times you explain it, you still are not getting the point.

Just like you brother MX.




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Old March 9th 09, 09:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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No mater how many times you explain it, you still are not getting the point.


My original 'point' was that I could not understand how a pilot could
not know the AP was disconnected based on what is fitted to the
majority of current aircraft.
Now I know that this particular Russian Airbus did NOT have an alarm
but that does NOT give you the right to argue other aircraft also have
NO system of alarm just because ***I*** said it.

I dont have to be a commercial pilot to be aware of this the same as I
don't have to be Neil Armstrong and step onto the surface of the moon
to 'know' it's not made out of cheese. Awareness and knowledge (to a
some degree) can be acquired solely from the written word, videos and
from real pilots of the particular aircraft you are studying otherwise
why have flight manuals, why have detailed manuals about a particular
aircraft when according to you the ONLY accurate and entirely
formidible 'training' MUST be done on a real flightdeck. There is a
cross over of this type of learning for real pilots amongst ANY other
profession - Theory/Practicle
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Old March 5th 09, 02:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Clark writes:

Over a hundred dead Russians are testement that your "sure" is baseless.


How so?

What is up with these MSFS freaks? Why on Earth do they think a game is

anything like the real world?


Why do so many private pilots feel threatened by simulators? Strangely
enough, airline pilots are far less likely to exhibit this sort of knee-jerk
rejection.
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Old March 5th 09, 04:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Why do so many private pilots feel threatened by simulators?


You have delusions of grandeur.

No one is threatened by simultators.

Most everyone is annoyed by a self-proclaimed aviation expert who's
credentials consist of playing games and reading Internet articles
about aviation. That the self-proclaimed aviation expert also has
a bad case of tunnel vision and the social skills of a 8 year old
doesn't help the situation.


--
Jim Pennino

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Old March 5th 09, 04:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Clark writes:

Over a hundred dead Russians are testement that your "sure" is baseless.


How so?

What is up with these MSFS freaks? Why on Earth do they think a game is

anything like the real world?


Why do so many private pilots feel threatened by simulators? Strangely
enough, airline pilots are far less likely to exhibit this sort of
knee-jerk
rejection.


Their not, they just know you're a retarded, ****-for-brains so they avoid
you.



 




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