Radio altimeter fault triggered Turkish Airlines crash

Mxsmanic wrote:
Robert M. Gary writes:

You are talking about standard altitude altimeters or RAs?

RAs. One of them had malfunctioned on several previous flights, according to
the flight data recorders. The airline had not bothered to fix it, even
though it is essential for autoland (perhaps the airline expected its pilots
to be alert and hard-working enough to fly landings by hand, although that's
not really an excuse).

Babble.

Where is your data on airline SOP with regard to doing an autoland all
the way to the ground?

Where is your data on the percentage of landings that do an autoland
all the way to the ground?


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Jim Pennino

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Where is your data on airline SOP with regard to doing an autoland all
the way to the ground?

Every autoland is all the way to the ground.

Mxsmanic wrote:
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Where is your data on airline SOP with regard to doing an autoland all
the way to the ground?

Every autoland is all the way to the ground.

Where in the world did you come up with that rediculous statement?

What percentage of landings are done with autoland and what is your
source of information?

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Jim Pennino

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Where is your data on airline SOP with regard to doing an autoland all
the way to the ground?

Every autoland is all the way to the ground.

Only when flying a desk, moron. The real world is quite different.

On Mar 4, 8:21*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

Turkish Airlines has the worst safety record of all airlines in Europe and the
U.S. combined, in terms of flights with fatalities over total flights. *And it
trails by quite a margin.

Wrong.

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Where in the world did you come up with that rediculous statement?

If the autopilot isn't taking the aircraft to touchdown, it's not an autoland.
That's what autoland means: automatic landing. No control inputs required.
Autopilot engaged all the way up to touchdown and beyond.

Mxsmanic wrote:
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Where in the world did you come up with that rediculous statement?

If the autopilot isn't taking the aircraft to touchdown, it's not an autoland.
That's what autoland means: automatic landing. No control inputs required.
Autopilot engaged all the way up to touchdown and beyond.

Yeah, right.

The word "autoland" refers to a system in aircraft.

If you are going to post to real aviation groups, learn the language
of real aviation.

It is routine to turn on autoland during approach and turn it off just
before touchdown.


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Jim Pennino

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The word "autoland" refers to a system in aircraft.
It is routine to turn on autoland during approach and turn it off just
before touchdown.

That's not how we did it in the B-727s that I flew at PanAm.
Autoland was a procedure during which the autopilot flew the
aircraft to touchdown.

Bob Moore
ATP B-727 B-707 L-188
CFII

Robert Moore wrote:
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The word "autoland" refers to a system in aircraft.
It is routine to turn on autoland during approach and turn it off just
before touchdown.

That's not how we did it in the B-727s that I flew at PanAm.
Autoland was a procedure during which the autopilot flew the
aircraft to touchdown.

The shuttle does an autoland approach and touches down manually.

And yes, "autoland" can refer to a procedure or a system.

The whole point is, contrary to MX's claim, not EVERY approach that
starts as "autoland" (however you want to define it) ends with the
A/C on the ground for EVERY airplane.


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Jim Pennino

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The word "autoland" refers to a system in aircraft.
It is routine to turn on autoland during approach and turn it off just
before touchdown.

That's not how we did it in the B-727s that I flew at PanAm.
Autoland was a procedure during which the autopilot flew the
aircraft to touchdown.

Bob Moore
ATP B-727 B-707 L-188
CFII

It was suggested (stated I spose) by another poster here that "most"
landings are autolands. I categorically disagreed with that statement.

Air New Zealand do about 1 in 7 autolands.

What ratio did you do?

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Duncan