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![]() Oh brother, Mx Jr.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - God man grow up. What do you think the point of an autopilot, autolanding and autothrottle systems are for?? To make control of an airliner easier for the flightcrew whether it an Airbus, Boeing and MD and even a Cirus, Pipers etc. As a Cessna 152 has NONE of these systems they have to be flown by hand and landed by hand. An airliner does NOT HAVE to be hand flown - in REAL LIFE and RARELY is. Read some books, watch some videos and wise up you lot. I was DEFENDING the skill required in hand flying a light aircraft but it just seems to literally 'fly' over a lot of heads here in your blindness for what you are reading. There is nothing wrong with my previous post. I know what is required in a real aircraft to control airspeed, attitude, descents and climbs because I HAVE bloody flown a REAL aircraft but in the UK you are not permitted to land or take off on your first lesson which I was commenting on. Ibby |
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![]() "Ibby" wrote in message ... You grow up dumb ass. Just exactly like MX, in your ignorance and inexperience you missed the whole point. |
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![]() You grow up dumb ass. Just exactly like MX, in your ignorance and inexperience you missed the whole point. So how can someone who HAS physically controlled a real aircraft (me) be compared to MX who HASN'T controlled a real aircraft???????????? The Sim isn't perfect but it DOES teach (especially with commercial addons) elements of flight and navigation. It helped me understand what was required on my first flight in a Cessna 152. Infact the REAL aircraft was EASIER to roll, pitch and trim than the sim. If my comments are so stupid about landing an airliner then YOU describe to ME the process involved in doing so!! Why do airports have ILS's, why do they have DME etc, for navigation and automated flight. Why does the FMC have a full SID STAR database if the pilot was just going to hand fly them based on his charts? Do commercial airlines use the autopilot - yes they do from 500ft after takeoff to potential touchdown. An airline pilot would NEVER hand fly an entire route from takeoff, cruise to landing as per your assumptions. Doing so WOULD be very difficult and I'd freely give credit to a pilot that could do it but they use all systems available to ease their workload - FACT. Ask a REAL airline pilot, not a GA pilot. Infact ask them too, if you have an autopilot on your aircraft - DO you use it and why do you use it if not to make the flight easier? You hardly use it 'for the challenge' Ibby |
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Ibby writes:
So how can someone who HAS physically controlled a real aircraft (me) be compared to MX who HASN'T controlled a real aircraft???????????? We both fail to kowtow before the treehouse club, and to the club members, that's all that matters. Welcome to USENET. If you must take sides, at least be sure to choose your friends carefully. |
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![]() If you must take sides, at least be sure to choose your friends carefully. I'm trying to defend aspects of the sim and made that very clear on my original post and topic change. It was a partial defense for your comments that simulated knowledge of aircraft systems and locations of buttons and procedures does bear accurate resemblance to that on the real flight deck. My comments about personally having some flight experience is true but as I like to sim as well 'I've been tarred with the same brush' Most of these ppl on here 'have got it in for MSFS' because of your continual 'I know best attitude' and lack of full and detailed responses to counter their negative replies. Because of this ANY comment made by ANY simmer means nothing!!!!!!!! I believe if information has been cross referenced by many accurate sources then it's deemed, by propabilities, to be true and doesn't physically have to be experienced by oneself. Even if we got Oskar Wagner on here, a REAL A320 pilot and a long time FSX fan, to write about what a REAL Airbus does Maxwell and the rest of them would say CRAP, or bOB to discuss rotaries. Even if they said the EXACT same as us it would mean nothing. Dudley Henriques is a real pilot too and offers his techical knowledge to software vendors as far as I'm aware of and worked closely with the likes of RealAir - but again that means nothing to these ppl. I'm sure there a more 'skeletons' in this 'closet' of a forum who keep quiet!!!!!!!!!! I used to log into this group the odd time and now remember why I stopped as it's all pathetic. I'm out of here!!!!!!!!!!! Ibby |
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![]() "Ibby" wrote in message ... If you must take sides, at least be sure to choose your friends carefully. I'm trying to defend aspects of the sim and made that very clear on my original post and topic change. It was a partial defense for your comments that simulated knowledge of aircraft systems and locations of buttons and procedures does bear accurate resemblance to that on the real flight deck. You two need to get a room. |
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Most of these ppl on here 'have got it in for MSFS' because of your continual 'I know best attitude' and lack of full and detailed responses to counter their negative replies. No. Pilots who engage in knee-jerk dismissals of simulation were doing that long before I was around. I've seen it frequently in conversations in which I didn't even participate. Some pilots are just very insecure about anything that might diminish the prestige they believe that real flying has. Dudley Henriques is a real pilot too and offers his techical knowledge to software vendors as far as I'm aware of and worked closely with the likes of RealAir - but again that means nothing to these ppl. I note that Dudley has a far more balanced view of simulation than some of the more rabid, low-time, small-aircraft pilots on this newsgroup. |
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![]() "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Ibby writes: Most of these ppl on here 'have got it in for MSFS' because of your continual 'I know best attitude' and lack of full and detailed responses to counter their negative replies. No. Pilots who engage in knee-jerk dismissals of simulation were doing that long before I was around. I've seen it frequently in conversations in which I didn't even participate. Some pilots are just very insecure about anything that might diminish the prestige they believe that real flying has. Dudley Henriques is a real pilot too and offers his techical knowledge to software vendors as far as I'm aware of and worked closely with the likes of RealAir - but again that means nothing to these ppl. I note that Dudley has a far more balanced view of simulation than some of the more rabid, low-time, small-aircraft pilots on this newsgroup. Why, because most do not accept the importance simulation plays in your fantasy life? Sim worshipers like you and Ibby would find solace on the sim and game groups, but then you would have to accept reality. |
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![]() "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Ibby writes: So how can someone who HAS physically controlled a real aircraft (me) be compared to MX who HASN'T controlled a real aircraft???????????? We both fail to kowtow before the treehouse club, and to the club members, that's all that matters. Welcome to USENET. If you must take sides, at least be sure to choose your friends carefully. No, because you are both inexperience and have bad attitudes. |
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![]() "Ibby" wrote in message ... You grow up dumb ass. Just exactly like MX, in your ignorance and inexperience you missed the whole point. So how can someone who HAS physically controlled a real aircraft (me) be compared to MX who HASN'T controlled a real aircraft???????????? You attitude and insistence on arguing things you clearly don't understand. |
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