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On Mar 14, 8:02 pm, rlovinggood wrote:
Yea, I believe he won't be competing at Cordele, Georgia, USA, since
he will be the Contest Director. But even if he did fly the contest,
I wouldn't mind flying with a two-time National Champion. And, he
would be flying a similar glider, an LS1-f, versus my LS1-d. Not a
Duo Discus, not a Ventus, not an ASG-29, and not the super ship of all
time, the Hanle H-301 Libelle. Those flapped, low tail, drogue chute
equipped, grand venting bubble canopy, pinched-egg cross section
fuselage terrors just can't be beat.

Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA

Any word on today's results? There's an initial report on SSA by John
Good indicating excellent conditions. I'm curious to see if the better
conditions and higher speeds sets Sam back in the LS1f.

LATEST:
Seems they "hold" the final scores to announce at the banquet tonight....I
find this ridiculous but I got no say! Talked with Sam earlier
tonight....Karl won the day and, of course is champ. Sam got low on first
leg and lost a few minutes and Ken (KM) aced him out for second overall and
Sam is third (about 5th or more for the day). Good contest. Sorry I could
not stay for the whole thing.
Ed Byars 9:40pm

Ed,

Thanks for the news.

"Holding the scores?"

Say it ain't so! Ah geez. That's really lame.

Oh, by the way, in one of the college basketball tournaments today,
the ACC semi-finals, UNC played Florida State and Maryland played
Duke. Final scores are being held to build suspense for the final
game to be played tomorrow (Sunday). Winner of the semi-finals will
be announced five minutes before the finals are set to begin. Don't
change that channel!

Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA

Ray:

CM a contest and let the scores go out before the banquet. Then let me
know whether you have a new perspective on the topic

Other sports do this, and it's a lot more fun than watching any kind
of basketball, especially when you're a contestant on site.

2NO (one-time CM and real-time public scoring aficionado)

On Mar 15, 12:12*am, Tuno wrote:
Ray:

CM a contest and let the scores go out before the banquet. Then let me
know whether you have a new perspective on the topic

Other sports do this, and it's a lot more fun than watching any kind
of basketball, especially when you're a contestant on site.

2NO (one-time CM and real-time public scoring aficionado)

Tuno,

I don't understand and yes, maybe I would if I were to CM a contest.
But no, I still can't wrap my minuscule mind around the concept of not
posting scores as soon as they are available and as soon as internet
service is available.

Regarding posting the scores, may I make a proposal?

If the scorer can't upload the scores due to lack of internet service,
why not use a telephone, call someone who does live in internet land,
and say, "Hey Bob, the top three finishers for today were X, Y, and Z
in 18m and W8, B, and C in Club Class Would you please post this
information on RAS (or even some pre-arranged deal with SSA to post to
their website.) Scores have been computed and will be posted when we
get internet service restored."

Or, "Hey Bob, please post to RAS (or, again, to the SSA website), that
we didn't fly today due to weather (or a called rest day.)"

How hard would that be? Just throw us a bone out here and let us
know, briefly, if you flew or not, and maybe the top three finishers
for the day, AND LET US KNOW YOU WILL POST THE SCORES AS SOON AS THE
INTERNET (OR WHATEVER) IS BACK UP!!!

It's just frustrating in this day and age when no timely information
is provided. NONE, NADA, ZIP.

Surely, there's a way to get some type of short message out quickly
("Tweeter"???)

Respectfully,
Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA

I don't understand and yes, maybe I would if I were to CM a contest.
But no, I still can't wrap my minuscule mind around the concept of not
posting scores as soon as they are available and as soon as internet
service is available.

Regarding posting the scores, may I make a proposal?

If the scorer can't upload the scores due to lack of internet service,
why not use a telephone, call someone who does live in internet land,
and say, "Hey Bob, the top three finishers for today were X, Y, and Z
in 18m and W8, B, and C in Club Class *Would you please post this
information on RAS (or even some pre-arranged deal with SSA to post to
their website.) Scores have been computed and will be posted when we
get internet service restored."

Or, "Hey Bob, please post to RAS (or, again, to the SSA website), that
we didn't fly today due to weather (or a called rest day.)"

How hard would that be? *Just throw us a bone out here and let us
know, briefly, if you flew or not, and maybe the top three finishers
for the day, AND LET US KNOW YOU WILL POST THE SCORES AS SOON AS THE
INTERNET (OR WHATEVER) IS BACK UP!!!

It's just frustrating in this day and age when no timely information
is provided. *NONE, NADA, ZIP.

Surely, there's a way to get some type of short message out quickly
("Tweeter"???)

Respectfully,
Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA

Correction: "Twitter" is what I meant to type.

Ray

On Mar 15, 7:28*am, rlovinggood wrote:
I don't understand and yes, maybe I would if I were to CM a contest.
But no, I still can't wrap my minuscule mind around the concept of not
posting scores as soon as they are available and as soon as internet
service is available.

Regarding posting the scores, may I make a proposal?

If the scorer can't upload the scores due to lack of internet service,
why not use a telephone, call someone who does live in internet land,
and say, "Hey Bob, the top three finishers for today were X, Y, and Z
in 18m and W8, B, and C in Club Class *Would you please post this
information on RAS (or even some pre-arranged deal with SSA to post to
their website.) Scores have been computed and will be posted when we
get internet service restored."

Or, "Hey Bob, please post to RAS (or, again, to the SSA website), that
we didn't fly today due to weather (or a called rest day.)"

How hard would that be? *Just throw us a bone out here and let us
know, briefly, if you flew or not, and maybe the top three finishers
for the day, AND LET US KNOW YOU WILL POST THE SCORES AS SOON AS THE
INTERNET (OR WHATEVER) IS BACK UP!!!

It's just frustrating in this day and age when no timely information
is provided. *NONE, NADA, ZIP.

Surely, there's a way to get some type of short message out quickly
("Tweeter"???)

Respectfully,
Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA

Correction: *"Twitter" is what I meant to type.

Ray

Twitter might actually be a very good platform for getting the info
out. There's a search engine called "Montwitter" at WWW.montwitter.com
that allows you to watch or search words of your choice. That would
allow us to find what we are looking for in all the background noise
on Twitter.

On Mar 15, 8:26*am, bildan wrote:
On Mar 15, 7:28*am, rlovinggood wrote:



I don't understand and yes, maybe I would if I were to CM a contest.
But no, I still can't wrap my minuscule mind around the concept of not
posting scores as soon as they are available and as soon as internet
service is available.

Regarding posting the scores, may I make a proposal?

If the scorer can't upload the scores due to lack of internet service,
why not use a telephone, call someone who does live in internet land,
and say, "Hey Bob, the top three finishers for today were X, Y, and Z
in 18m and W8, B, and C in Club Class *Would you please post this
information on RAS (or even some pre-arranged deal with SSA to post to
their website.) Scores have been computed and will be posted when we
get internet service restored."

Or, "Hey Bob, please post to RAS (or, again, to the SSA website), that
we didn't fly today due to weather (or a called rest day.)"

How hard would that be? *Just throw us a bone out here and let us
know, briefly, if you flew or not, and maybe the top three finishers
for the day, AND LET US KNOW YOU WILL POST THE SCORES AS SOON AS THE
INTERNET (OR WHATEVER) IS BACK UP!!!

It's just frustrating in this day and age when no timely information
is provided. *NONE, NADA, ZIP.

Surely, there's a way to get some type of short message out quickly
("Tweeter"???)

Respectfully,
Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA

Correction: *"Twitter" is what I meant to type.

Ray

Twitter might actually be a very good platform for getting the info
out. *There's a search engine called "Montwitter" at WWW.montwitter.com
that allows you to watch or search words of your choice. *That would
allow us to find what we are looking for in all the background noise
on Twitter.

Sorry, I'm getting Ray's fat finger. I meant www.monitter.com

....because a very fair number then skips the banquet and head home...

Most of us are contest news followers at some level and its
understandably frustrating when no updates are available but reporting
is not the primary "job" of contest organizers. There is a lot to do
at the end of a contest as organizers are running around with
accomplishing contest related duties. Holding the scores is an
organizers prerogative.

Remember the old days? You waited until the results came out in
Soaring, back when the entire score sheet was printed. Then Larry used
to leave phone recordings at the SSA office and you could call in for
an update often days later. Then SSA staff would fax them to you if
you called and asked. Then the organizers would electronically send
the results to the office and the SSA staff would post them online
often coming in to work on weekends to get this done. Now, through the
genius of SSA web guru Doug Easton, results can be posted directly to
the net and they show on the SSA site in seconds. It is wonderful that
people want to follow contest news but give the organizers a break if
they decide to put out the fires at hand before posting or control the
release of the final day. Embrace the anticipation.

On Mar 15, 9:10*am, rlovinggood wrote:
(one-time CM and real-time public scoring aficionado)

Tuno,

I don't understand and yes, maybe I would if I were to CM a contest.
But no, I still can't wrap my minuscule mind around the concept of not
posting scores as soon as they are available and as soon as internet
service is available.


Respectfully,
Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA


Ray,

Don't fret; your mental capacity is not in question. It's a subtle
point, but...

If the awards banquet is scheduled for the evening of the last contest
day, there's a tendency for some folks to bail early and start their
long drive home. Keeping some amount of suspense around the outcome
encourages at least a few more people to stick around. Having been
left holding (the not insignificant) bill for a bunch of no-shows when
we've prepaid a caterer for some minumum number of participants, I
can tell you it's not a nice feeling. There are ways around it, but
at the end of the day, it's nice of the winners have a few more of
their peers around to cheer for them.

P3

P3,

I'll agree to disagree with you on holding scores on the last day.
Heck, hold the banquet on the night before the final day. The final
day might get rained out and there's going to be people traveling home
on the final day and not waiting around for the banquet.

But, for the other days, the organizers and participants should try to
get some news out. Just let us know if a race was flown and give us
the preliminary winner or top three (pick a number) for the day. As
mentioned previously, if the internet isn't working, grab a phone
(there is usually a land line at a contest site) and call someone that
does have internet service for a quick synopsis. Heck, if there's a
land-line telephone, there might even be a fax machine. Fax out to
someone with internet service and again, a quick synopsis such as "we
didn't fly due to weather" or "we didn't fly because it's a rest day"
or "the winner was...and preliminary scores will be posted when the
internet is working again..."

Respectfully,
Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA