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Old May 7th 09, 08:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Uncle Fuzzy
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On May 7, 11:30*am, Nyal Williams wrote:
At 17:10 07 May 2009, wrote:

On May 7, 7:29=A0am, GARY BOGGS *wrote:
JJ outlanded in a nudist colony one time. =A0Now that's a plan!


Gary Boggs


Actually it was a cat-house, one of Nevada's finest. My crew (wife)
was there before I could knock on the door!
JJ


1. What is the total number for Nevada's finest?

2. What is the total numb for Nevada, all inclusive?

3. Describe the procedures for your ranking.


Most are closed now, but the runways are still (bare ly ;-) )
servicable.
I have coordinates for a few. Haven't needed them yet. There is often
an interesting cyclic thermal over the Cherry Patch. Very odd.
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Old May 7th 09, 08:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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At 18:30 07 May 2009, Nyal Williams wrote:

1. What is the total number for Nevada's finest?

2. What is the total numb for Nevada, all inclusive?


Google knows all, tells all:

http://www.nevadalegalbrothels.com/home.htm

Jim Beckman

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Old May 8th 09, 01:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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At 18:21 07 May 2009, Andy wrote:
On May 7, 7:02=A0am, GARY BOGGS wrote:
=A0Much better than hoping and praying,
is to have a plan! =A0You should have a plan at 5000ft agl, and

re-think
the plan every thousand feet as you get lower. =A0


No argument with the philosphy but there is nothing magic about 5000ft
agl. In some place I fly you may have very few landing choices at
5,000 ft agl. In other places you may still have lots of choices at
1,000 ft agl.

Rather than specify an altitude it's probably better to decide how
many options you want to keep open. The list reduces with altitude
and the last one left ought to be landing in a known safe place. (No,
it hasn't always worked out that way for me)


Andy


Oh how others live!!! If I was ever lucky enough to fly on a day when you
could get to 5000ft I ceased to worry about where I was going to land,
that was over 30 miles away and I could not see that far. In the UK 3000ft
is a good day. 5000ft is lying to your boss territory.
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Old May 8th 09, 01:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On May 6, 10:29*pm, RRK wrote:
* * *I'm sure I'm not the only X-country sailor who negotiate the lift
deals with the God. You know. You get low, nothing is working, landing
options are limited and there....a little too far away... you see the
very last chance. You have to ask The Almighty for a little help and
have to promise Him something.
Please share you thoughts and ultimate outcomes ?



My best times of worship are usually between 12,000' and 17,999 on the
Inyos, Whites and Sierras. I've had equal or better on the Monitors.
The Lord likes to see the ear to ear grin on my face as I'm coring a
15 knot thermal. Can't get much closer to God.
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Old May 8th 09, 03:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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wrote in message ...
On May 6, 10:29 pm, RRK wrote:
I'm sure I'm not the only X-country sailor who negotiate the lift
deals with the God. You know. You get low, nothing is working, landing
options are limited and there....a little too far away... you see the
very last chance. You have to ask The Almighty for a little help and
have to promise Him something.
Please share you thoughts and ultimate outcomes ?



My best times of worship are usually between 12,000' and 17,999 on the
Inyos, Whites and Sierras. I've had equal or better on the Monitors.
The Lord likes to see the ear to ear grin on my face as I'm coring a
15 knot thermal. Can't get much closer to God.


This is also true for those of us who fly over the mountains of centeral Idaho.
http://www.soaridaho.com/photogaller...r_Mt_Range.jpg
http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/HP...P-14_6F_1a.jpg
http://www.soaridaho.com/photogaller.../17900_MSL.jpg
http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/HP...P-14_N990d.jpg

Wayne
HP-16 "6F".
http://www.soaridaho.com/

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Old May 8th 09, 05:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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My best times of worship are usually between 12,000' and 17,999 on the
Inyos, Whites and Sierras. I've had equal or better on the Monitors.
The Lord likes to see the ear to ear grin on my face as I'm coring a
15 knot thermal. Can't get much closer to God.


Can I get an amen?

A-MEN!

Of course the strongest thermal I've ever been in was maybe 8 knots, and
I've flown entire cross countries below 5000 feet (and 3000 feet
probably).


-Tony Condon
Cherokee II N373Y
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Old May 8th 09, 01:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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This reminds me of an old Ed Kilbourne classic!!!

"Ridge runners, ridge runners, way up in the wave
Even Jesus must be wondering just how you boys got saved
You were almost 6 feet under now you're dancing on your grave
There ain't nothing like some altitude to make a man feel brave."

When I was in high school, it was a beautiful soaring day. I couldn't
help myself...after looking out the windows during 4th period at all
the cumulus clouds starting to pop and the flagpole showing a
northwest wind.....Well it's obvious, you would have done the same if
you grew up outside of New Castle, VA.....On a hall pass to use the
bathroom, I skipped school. I hopped in my car when the vice
principal Mr. Stevenson wasn't looking and raced to the gliderclub.
On wednesday's we had a regular towpilot and only a few die-hard
glider pilots to go soaring with. I hopped in the L-33 and was off in
the air before noon. Since the conditions were "Labratory Conditions"
as Karl Striedieck might say, I thought "what would my great
instructor 55 do?"....he would no doubt go cross country! Yeah baby!
After flying the ridge to almost near my high school 25 miles away and
thermalling up to around 6,000 feet I scooted north up to Covington,
WV. On the way back late in the day, I got really low over Oriskany,
VA...about 1,300 feet. There was a great big flat field below me. I
had picked up another club member from that field just recently when
he landed out. I remember thinking, if I don't make this
work......I'm in trouble with school, parents and others. I didn't
pray then, but I sure do thank God for that last thermal to get me
home now that I look back!!!

On a serious note. A well respected friend and pilot examiner for my
airline had an interesting story. In the winter once, he flew through
some unforecasted severe icing which led to large vibrations coming
from an engine which led to a shutdown. With his airplane loaded to
the gils with ice, on one engine, he coldn't maintain altitude so he
entered a shallow dive to maintain his minimum driftdown airspeed. In
his own words he said "it was the most narly and terrible situation I
had ever seen." He, a christian, claimed to have never prayed before
in the cockpit while flying. Scared, nervous and out of ideas to get
out of trouble, he nodded his head for a few second prayer. When he
opened his eyes, off to his right was an opening in the clouds. He
turned right and the ice began to melt off as he flew VMC all the way
to a VMC airport and landed single engine.

Since I know this man personally, I can testify to this story. I
believe his prayer worked. I believe if he hadn't prayed it would
have been much worse.
 




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