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Old May 10th 09, 05:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Building an electronic Angle of Attack indicator

RST Engineering - JIm wrote:
Yes. It was made by National Semiconductor and you could get it linear or
logarithmic. It was obsoleted by National about fifteen years ago, but
there are still a few of them in the pipeline at a pretty hefty price.

Jim



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Isn't there a voltage-to-LED-bar-graph IC? I seem to
remember such a thing. That would make the circuit simple.



Nope. It's still very much available in the surface mount package.
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Old May 10th 09, 06:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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By God, you are correct. When my supplier told me in 1999 that the LM3914
was no longer available, they failed to tell me that the LM3914-1 was a
direct replacement and very much still in the pipeline, even as the larger
18 pin through-hole DIP package. Thanks for correcting me.

Jim


"Rip" wrote in message
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RST Engineering - JIm wrote:
Yes. It was made by National Semiconductor and you could get it linear
or logarithmic. It was obsoleted by National about fifteen years ago,
but there are still a few of them in the pipeline at a pretty hefty
price.

Jim



wrote in message
...

Isn't there a voltage-to-LED-bar-graph IC? I seem to
remember such a thing. That would make the circuit simple.



Nope. It's still very much available in the surface mount package.



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Old May 10th 09, 07:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Building an electronic Angle of Attack indicator

RST Engineering - JIm wrote:
By God, you are correct. When my supplier told me in 1999 that the LM3914
was no longer available, they failed to tell me that the LM3914-1 was a
direct replacement and very much still in the pipeline, even as the larger
18 pin through-hole DIP package. Thanks for correcting me.

Jim


"Rip" wrote in message
...
RST Engineering - JIm wrote:
Yes. It was made by National Semiconductor and you could get it linear
or logarithmic. It was obsoleted by National about fifteen years ago,
but there are still a few of them in the pipeline at a pretty hefty
price.

Jim



wrote in message
...

Isn't there a voltage-to-LED-bar-graph IC? I seem to
remember such a thing. That would make the circuit simple.

Nope. It's still very much available in the surface mount package.



My pleasure. This topic is timely, since I recently built myself a
"Lift Reserve Indicator" based on the LM3914 and a Honeywell sensor.
Now I'm doing a "true" angle of attack indicator based on the Maxim
4210 multiplier (and an op amp) to correct for airspeed ram pressure.

A terrific treatise on the subject (with one inconsequential math error)
can be found he
http://users.cablemo.net/~jjshultz/sonex/aoa.html

Rip
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Old May 11th 09, 01:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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The electronics are trivial. The sensors are everything. Please post
detailed information.

Jim



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My pleasure. This topic is timely, since I recently built myself a
"Lift Reserve Indicator" based on the LM3914 and a Honeywell sensor.
Now I'm doing a "true" angle of attack indicator based on the Maxim
4210 multiplier (and an op amp) to correct for airspeed ram pressure.

A terrific treatise on the subject (with one inconsequential math error)
can be found he
http://users.cablemo.net/~jjshultz/sonex/aoa.html

Rip



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Old May 11th 09, 03:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Building an electronic Angle of Attack indicator

RST Engineering - JIm wrote:
The electronics are trivial. The sensors are everything. Please post
detailed information.

Jim



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My pleasure. This topic is timely, since I recently built myself a
"Lift Reserve Indicator" based on the LM3914 and a Honeywell sensor.
Now I'm doing a "true" angle of attack indicator based on the Maxim
4210 multiplier (and an op amp) to correct for airspeed ram pressure.

A terrific treatise on the subject (with one inconsequential math error)
can be found he
http://users.cablemo.net/~jjshultz/sonex/aoa.html

Rip



I used a Honeywell ASDXL05D44D on my initial "lift reserve indicator",
mainly be cause I had a spare kicking around.

The true angle of attack design uses 2 Freescale MPXV7002 sensors.

The sensors really aren't that critical.You're after a repeatable
differential pressure signal, rather than absolute accuracy.
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Old May 11th 09, 03:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Rip wrote:
RST Engineering - JIm wrote:
The electronics are trivial. The sensors are everything. Please post
detailed information.

Jim



"Rip" wrote in message
...


My pleasure. This topic is timely, since I recently built myself a
"Lift Reserve Indicator" based on the LM3914 and a Honeywell sensor.
Now I'm doing a "true" angle of attack indicator based on the Maxim
4210 multiplier (and an op amp) to correct for airspeed ram pressure.

A terrific treatise on the subject (with one inconsequential math
error) can be found he
http://users.cablemo.net/~jjshultz/sonex/aoa.html

Rip



I used a Honeywell ASDXL05D44D on my initial "lift reserve indicator",
mainly be cause I had a spare kicking around.

The true angle of attack design uses 2 Freescale MPXV7002 sensors.

The sensors really aren't that critical.You're after a repeatable
differential pressure signal, rather than absolute accuracy.



I forget who makes it, but there's a commercially available system
that uses ports in the leading edge of a wing. My primary concern would
be how one protects from fouling while parked. I like your probe idea
since one could easily make a protective sleeve with a "remove before
flight" streamer attached.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old May 11th 09, 05:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Sun, 10 May 2009 21:43:15 -0500, Dan wrote:




I forget who makes it, but there's a commercially available system
that uses ports in the leading edge of a wing. My primary concern would
be how one protects from fouling while parked. I like your probe idea
since one could easily make a protective sleeve with a "remove before
flight" streamer attached.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired



Any reason not to incorporate the LR sensor ports in a custom main
pitot pylon?
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Old May 11th 09, 04:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Dan wrote:
Rip wrote:
RST Engineering - JIm wrote:
The electronics are trivial. The sensors are everything. Please
post detailed information.

Jim



"Rip" wrote in message
...


My pleasure. This topic is timely, since I recently built myself a
"Lift Reserve Indicator" based on the LM3914 and a Honeywell sensor.
Now I'm doing a "true" angle of attack indicator based on the Maxim
4210 multiplier (and an op amp) to correct for airspeed ram pressure.

A terrific treatise on the subject (with one inconsequential math
error) can be found he
http://users.cablemo.net/~jjshultz/sonex/aoa.html

Rip


I used a Honeywell ASDXL05D44D on my initial "lift reserve indicator",
mainly be cause I had a spare kicking around.

The true angle of attack design uses 2 Freescale MPXV7002 sensors.

The sensors really aren't that critical.You're after a repeatable
differential pressure signal, rather than absolute accuracy.



I forget who makes it, but there's a commercially available system
that uses ports in the leading edge of a wing. My primary concern would
be how one protects from fouling while parked. I like your probe idea
since one could easily make a protective sleeve with a "remove before
flight" streamer attached.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


Thanks Dan, but credit where it's due. The page I linked to is by Jeff
Shultz, who went through the same exercise I went through, and was kind
enough to make a web-page out of his research.
 




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