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![]() "Ragnar" wrote in message ... "Alejandro Magno" wrote in message om... Either way, Russian hardware has never performed up to expectations in real battle. Kursk ? I would note that Kursk was fought by the SOVIETS, not the Russians. The best tanks of WW2 were Soviet and German. Even the French had better tanks than America. I would also note that Germany's "better" tanks lost, as did France's "better" tanks. Also note that LeClerc's French Armored Division that rolled into Paris AFTER if was liberated was riding in American Sherman tanks. Russian tanks were wiped off the battlefield in Iraq (twice). Russian aircraft were wiped out of the sky over Bekaa, Kosovo, Libya and Iraq. Russian anti-aircraft defenses were pushed into the dustbin of history in Syria, Viet Nam, Serbia and Iraq. Really ? Yes, really. The Syrians alone lost 85 Soviet-built planes in the 1982 Lebanon campaign, and managed to shoot down 0 US-built planes. Also consider that the Israelis were flying aircraft of foreign origin which invalidates Russian claims that their aircraft would fare much better if Russians were flying them. In any case, either their aircraft don't perform or the Russians are really poor teachers. Isreali techniques for defeating the Syrian sam defenses were adopted by the Americans in the first Gulf War. One of the interesting stories is how the US came up with drones nearly from scratch while the build-up was ongoing. By the time hostilities started, the US had a fleet of drones that it used to sucker the sam sites into turning on their radars. Iraqi air defenses were wiped out pretty much the first day. The Iraqi-US tank battles of the first Gulf War are pretty interesting to read about in detail. That was when there were no sanctions and Saddam was buying Russia's best tanks. Khadafi's confrontation with the US Navy was a washout for him. Serbs lost their SAM sites and their Air Force was relegated to hangar guard duty. It doesn't matter much if you have an Air Force if you can't/won't fly it. Russian submarines sink by themselves. Just like the USS Thresher and the USS Scorpion. Yes. However, the Soviets managed to lose at least 5 subs, one of which still sits in 15,000 feet of water off Norway. The waters around Russia are littered with the rusting hulks of their submarines, many of them still with their reactors. |
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