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Old May 26th 09, 03:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Gideon
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On Mon, 25 May 2009 05:24:45 -0700, the.sargon wrote:

I think you're reaching on the aerobatic. Do you have a specific
incident?


What about "climbing" as an altitude violation for a jumper?

- Andrew
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Old May 26th 09, 03:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On 26 May, 03:01, Andrew Gideon wrote:
On Mon, 25 May 2009 05:24:45 -0700, the.sargon wrote:
I think you're reaching on the aerobatic. *Do you have a specific
incident?


What about "climbing" as an altitude violation for a jumper?


Here is a near miss - in UK I believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHA0zvFfH9U
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Old May 26th 09, 11:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steve Hix
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In article
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bod43 wrote:

On 26 May, 03:01, Andrew Gideon wrote:
On Mon, 25 May 2009 05:24:45 -0700, the.sargon wrote:
I think you're reaching on the aerobatic. *Do you have a specific
incident?


What about "climbing" as an altitude violation for a jumper?


Here is a near miss - in UK I believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHA0zvFfH9U


Might have been in the UK, but the Chipmunk had maple leaf markings on
the wings.

Surely scary enough for all concerned.
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Old May 26th 09, 12:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 25, 9:01*pm, Andrew Gideon wrote:
On Mon, 25 May 2009 05:24:45 -0700, the.sargon wrote:
I think you're reaching on the aerobatic. *Do you have a specific
incident?


What about "climbing" as an altitude violation for a jumper?

* * * * - Andrew


What the heck is climbing?

If you mean BASE jumping then that's not skydiving out of an aircraft
which was the OPs original subject.
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Old May 26th 09, 02:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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What about "climbing" as an altitude violation for a jumper?

- Andrew


What the heck is climbing?

If you mean BASE jumping then that's not skydiving out of an aircraft
which was the OPs original subject.


Best I can tell he was humorously alluding to the fact that skydivers cannot
go back up and that "climbing" would be some sort of altitude violation (or
at the very least a violation of the laws of physics.) ;-)
Of course I could be wrong......

tp


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Old May 26th 09, 03:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"good grief" wrote in message
...
"climbing" would be some sort of altitude violation (or at the very least a
violation of the laws of physics.) ;-)
Of course I could be wrong......


You are wrong (well, sort of). My gliding instructor was also an avid
skydiver. He took great delight in guiding his jump plane upwind of the
best thermals before he jumped so he could fly into them and circle within
them . He was able to greatly prolong his parachute "flights" and on
occasion, actually climb back up to cloudbase; just like he taught me to do
in the sailplane.

Vaughn


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Old May 26th 09, 03:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mike Ash
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In article
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"vaughn" wrote:

"good grief" wrote in message
...
"climbing" would be some sort of altitude violation (or at the very least a
violation of the laws of physics.) ;-)
Of course I could be wrong......


You are wrong (well, sort of). My gliding instructor was also an avid
skydiver. He took great delight in guiding his jump plane upwind of the
best thermals before he jumped so he could fly into them and circle within
them . He was able to greatly prolong his parachute "flights" and on
occasion, actually climb back up to cloudbase; just like he taught me to do
in the sailplane.


And there is of course an entire sport dedicated to this called
paragliding. I believe their parachutes are somewhat different, but that
just means it's harder to thermal a skydiving parachute, not impossible.


Climbing *before* you open the chute, on the other hand, is going to
require some pretty "interesting" conditions....

--
Mike Ash
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Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon
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Old May 27th 09, 12:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dana M. Hague[_2_]
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On Tue, 26 May 2009 10:53:34 -0400, Mike Ash wrote:

And there is of course an entire sport dedicated to this called
paragliding. I believe their parachutes are somewhat different, but that
just means it's harder to thermal a skydiving parachute, not impossible.


Despite some similarities in appearance and construction, a paraglider
is COMPLETELY different from a skydiving parachute. A paraglider is a
wing (PG pilot's don't call them "parachutes"), designed solely for
gliding flight, and cannot be used for jumping (the shock of a free
fall opening would destroy it).

But yes, it's just [barely] possible to thermal a skydiving parachute.
And there are some horror stories of people who have bailed out into
thunderstorms and reached alarming altitudes...

-Dana
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When you get it right
mighty beasts float up into the sky
When you get it wrong
people die

-Roger Bacon (c1384)
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Old May 27th 09, 03:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mike Ash
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In article ,
Dana M. Hague wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 10:53:34 -0400, Mike Ash wrote:

And there is of course an entire sport dedicated to this called
paragliding. I believe their parachutes are somewhat different, but that
just means it's harder to thermal a skydiving parachute, not impossible.


Despite some similarities in appearance and construction, a paraglider
is COMPLETELY different from a skydiving parachute. A paraglider is a
wing (PG pilot's don't call them "parachutes"), designed solely for
gliding flight, and cannot be used for jumping (the shock of a free
fall opening would destroy it).


What do they think the "para" in "paragliding" comes from, then?

Good information about the opening shock. I had no idea about that.

--
Mike Ash
Radio Free Earth
Broadcasting from our climate-controlled studios deep inside the Moon
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Old May 27th 09, 09:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steve Hix
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In article ,
Dana M. Hague wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2009 10:53:34 -0400, Mike Ash wrote:

And there is of course an entire sport dedicated to this called
paragliding. I believe their parachutes are somewhat different, but that
just means it's harder to thermal a skydiving parachute, not impossible.


Despite some similarities in appearance and construction, a paraglider
is COMPLETELY different from a skydiving parachute. A paraglider is a
wing (PG pilot's don't call them "parachutes"), designed solely for
gliding flight, and cannot be used for jumping (the shock of a free
fall opening would destroy it).

But yes, it's just [barely] possible to thermal a skydiving parachute.
And there are some horror stories of people who have bailed out into
thunderstorms and reached alarming altitudes...


"The Man Who Rode the Thunder", Lt. Col. William Rankin, USMC, for one.
 




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