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On Jun 18, 5:45*am, Jim White wrote:
Look at the pipe cutter in the picture. No one in their right mind uses the
hull of their glider to place tools that they are using or have used. Sure
way to have a 'loose article' accident.

I've been on on enough aircraft manufacturing lines to know it's quite
normal to take tools into the hull and put them down when they are not
being used. What makes a glider so special that the same practices
cannot be followed. The important thing is to ensure that all tools
are removed when the job is completed. That can be done by inventory
and/or by careful inspection before closing.

Andy

At 14:16 18 June 2009, Andy wrote:
Remember Apollo 13? Or the AF Concorde that had tools left in the fuel
tank? Better not to leave them there at all.

Jim

I've been on on enough aircraft manufacturing lines to know it's quite
normal to take tools into the hull and put them down when they are not
being used. What makes a glider so special that the same practices
cannot be followed. The important thing is to ensure that all tools
are removed when the job is completed. That can be done by inventory
and/or by careful inspection before closing.

Andy

On Jun 18, 9:30*am, Jim White wrote:
At 14:16 18 June 2009, Andy wrote:
Remember Apollo 13? Or the AF Concorde that had tools left in the fuel
tank? Better not to leave them there at all.

Jim



I've been on on enough aircraft manufacturing lines to know it's quite
normal to take tools into the hull and put them down when they are not
being used. *What makes a glider so special that the same practices
cannot be followed. *The important thing is to ensure that all tools
are removed when the job is completed. That can be done by inventory
and/or by careful inspection before closing.

Andy



Can the loose tools police enlighten us more?

I remember damaged insulation from overheated wiring on Apollo 13 and
I don't recall anything specific about tools on Apollo 13 causing
problems. I don't remember an incident with tools left in Concorde
fuel tanks. If you mean Air France Flight 4590 the finger was pointed
at FOD from a DC-10 and design issues of the Concorde.

Darryl

At 16:30 18 June 2009, Jim White wrote:
Remember Apollo 13? Or the AF Concorde that had tools left in the fuel
tank? Better not to leave them there at all.

This is sort of a cliche, but it actually happened with one of our club's
1-26s. They had been making some kind of repairs on a wing that required
riveting new sheet metal on. When the wing was picked up to move it back
to the glider, there was a God-awful thump from inside. The glider went
through the rest of its life with yet another patch just ahead of the
aileron where they had to make an access hole to get the bucking bar out.

Jim Beckman