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Dudley Henriques wrote:
I'm on a Mac so it's a double good hit for me as good news readers
for Macs are not as plentiful as they are for PC's.

Mozilla Thunderbird, which I use and love, is available for more
operating systems than you could name.

I would say that the Google reader is probably fine for the casual user,
just not flexible enough for the more demanding users. I know, I demand
too much

Tom

On Jun 18, 7:34*pm, Tom Duhamel wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:
*I'm on a Mac so it's a double good hit for me as good news readers
for Macs are not as plentiful as they are for PC's.

Mozilla Thunderbird, which I use and love, is available for more
operating systems than you could name.

I would say that the Google reader is probably fine for the casual user,
just not flexible enough for the more demanding users. I know, I demand
too much

Tom

I used Thunderbird as well before RCN stopped handling Usenet. The
only trouble with TB is that being a mail program and news reader, it
still requires an ISP that handles Usenet. With Google Groups you
don't need an ISP who handles Usenet as it's an online reader. If you
have online access, you have Usenet :-))
DH

Dudley Henriques wrote:

I used Thunderbird as well before RCN stopped handling Usenet. The
only trouble with TB is that being a mail program and news reader, it
still requires an ISP that handles Usenet. With Google Groups you
don't need an ISP who handles Usenet as it's an online reader. If you
have online access, you have Usenet :-))

You don't need an ISP that offers Usenet . There are a number of
newsservers available, some that you pay for, and some that are free. The
free servers typically only carry text groups, with no binaries.

Here, for example, is a list of free servers:

http://directory.google.com/Top/Comp..._News_Servers/

The most popular are Albasani, Motzarella, and AIOE:

http://albasani.net/
http://www.eternal-september.org/
http://www.news.aioe.org/

Using a newsserver means you can use a newsreader, rather than the more
awkward web access, but the downside, as you mention, is that you need the
software loaded, and don't have the universal access of a web browser.

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Dudley Henriques wrote:

I used Thunderbird as well before RCN stopped handling Usenet. The
only trouble with TB is that being a mail program and news reader, it
still requires an ISP that handles Usenet. With Google Groups you
don't need an ISP who handles Usenet as it's an online reader. If you
have online access, you have Usenet :-))

You don't need an ISP that offers Usenet . There are a number of
newsservers available, some that you pay for, and some that are free. The
free servers typically only carry text groups, with no binaries.

Here, for example, is a list of free servers:

http://directory.google.com/Top/Comp..._News_Servers/

The most popular are Albasani, Motzarella, and AIOE:

http://albasani.net/
http://www.eternal-september.org/
http://www.news.aioe.org/

Using a newsserver means you can use a newsreader, rather than the more
awkward web access, but the downside, as you mention, is that you need the
software loaded, and don't have the universal access of a web browser.

Thanks for those. ATT/Bellsouth have announced that they are terminating
usenet services in the middle of next month and I was considering the
possibility of saying goodbye for a while. I took a look at Google Groups
when Dudley mentioned it, but at the moment the standard NNTP interface of
eternal-september seems much easier to use.

So, thanks again to both of you and also to Mike Ash for pointing out the
need to sign-up first even when there is a free service involved.

Peter

Peter Dohm schrieb:
Thanks for those. ATT/Bellsouth have announced that they are terminating
usenet services in the middle of next month and I was considering the
possibility of saying goodbye for a while. I took a look at Google Groups
when Dudley mentioned it, but at the moment the standard NNTP interface of
eternal-september seems much easier to use.

for the r.a.p folks we here also offer free access to our newsserver.

Peter

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Dudley Henriques wrote:
On Jun 18, 7:34 pm, Tom Duhamel wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:
I'm on a Mac so it's a double good hit for me as good news readers
for Macs are not as plentiful as they are for PC's.
Mozilla Thunderbird, which I use and love, is available for more
operating systems than you could name.

I would say that the Google reader is probably fine for the casual user,
just not flexible enough for the more demanding users. I know, I demand
too much

Tom

I used Thunderbird as well before RCN stopped handling Usenet. The
only trouble with TB is that being a mail program and news reader, it
still requires an ISP that handles Usenet. With Google Groups you
don't need an ISP who handles Usenet as it's an online reader. If you
have online access, you have Usenet :-))
DH

I have at home verizon and they still have it. My work network still
lets it though. I use TB at work because I cannot stand Lotus Notes.

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