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Thanks for your post Oliver, you are of course absolutely correct in
everthing you've said. I was regretting my second post with the 'thought exercise' as I hit the button, the intent was to demonstrate the relationship of Re to density, and I think I missed the mark. My intent for posting was not to provide an accurate engineering description of Reynolds number, but to help a non-engineer understand the basic concept. As you've provided, Re = v * L / nu. If we consider air viscocity / density / stickyness to be constant, then it holds that an airfoil operating at half the speed and twice the length of another will calculate out to the same Reynolds number, and both will essentially behave the same. I will submit for your consideration that giving a fully accurate and complete engineering description of the effects of Re that is gold for we engineers will do little or nothing to help the layman understand the underlying concept. (I'm a mechanical engineer, but not an aerodynamicist) I will contend that the terms kinematic and dynamic viscosity, drag polar, laminar and turbulent flow, laminar bucket, lift coefficient, while joyful for us engineers to bat around in aircraft design, they are abolutely meaningless to the non-engineer. (You did mean kinematic and not 'cinematic' didn't you? Sorry, just a friendly dig there. ;^) I'll try to restate: Reynolds number is essentially a count of how much air is acting on a wing in a unit of time. If a given length of airfoil traveling at a given speed calculates to a certain Re, then the same airfoil shape in a smaller size will have to go faster to have the same quantity of air working on it. Would that statement pass the accuracy test for you? Jan, is the concept starting to come together for you? Best regards all Gerry |
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To All:
I've always appreciated my father's explanation, which some of you may find suitable if you have a nine-year old who is just getting into free-flight. Model competitions were quite popular up until WWII but never regained their past glory after. My dad and several of his friends were discussing a new wing for an existing fuselage and Reynold's number was mentioned several times. When I asked what it was his friends started to grin; a couple even laughed but he told me there were somethings that we couldn't scale, such as the size of a molecule of air. so a fellow named Reynold came up with a way of calculating a number that could be used as a kind of artifical scaling factor. -R.S.Hoover (Do they still use Banana Oil?) |
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First, thanks to Oliver for a much better explanation.
It's not about the size of a molecule, but how they interact with each other and surfaces at different energy levels. These links are a few animations and film clips that depict air flow and increasingly higher Reynolds numbers. This first one is at VERY LOW Reynolds and displays a nearly Newtonian reaction. I suspect that if people think about air flow, this is how they would expect it to behave. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbMx2...eature=related But kick the velocity up to flying speeds and see what actually happens... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4taH...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQHXI...eature=related Transonic range... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMEQJhiebu4 And a standing shock wave on a sub sonic airliner wing! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duCHF...eature=related Actual photographs of supersonic shock waves (an interesting film about supersonic flight too) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atItR...eature=related So, what about an actual airfoil? Department of Engineering, University of Cambridge, multimedia video from Physics Education, 2003, by Holger Babinsky. The smoke tunnel really lays it out clearly. And the pulsed smoke flow can start a lot of arguments! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UlsA...eature=related This one I like because it shows a "long bubble" developing on the top surface of the wing. It's not what they were after, but it clearly shows the bubble development. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-xxC...eature=related |
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