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Your (US-centric) problem is introducing a subjective word 'fair' into
rules which humans have to apply (I am even willing to concede here that lawyers are human). What contitutes fairness? - exactly equal gliders and instruments (and crew, etc, but you are not borrowing my wife), now that's fair. Or not, depending on how you argue it. In UK the siuation in question is simple. The gate opens, not at the CD's whim, but with max height at 3,000ft AGL it opens 10 minutes after the last glider in the class starts to be towed. For every 200ft added to max height, add 1 minute. No ifs, no buts. The only thing the CD can do after that is cancel the task and have a rebrief before the gate opens if it is UNSAFE to continue. Nobody pretended that gliding was fair when I was a boy in the Nationals. The winner was the pilot with most points after the last day, however it panned out. |
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At 07:30 06 July 2009, Peter Purdie wrote:
Your (US-centric) problem is introducing a subjective word 'fair' into rules which humans have to apply (I am even willing to concede here that lawyers are human). What contitutes fairness? - exactly equal gliders and instruments (and crew, etc, but you are not borrowing my wife), now that's fair. Or not, depending on how you argue it. In UK the siuation in question is simple. The gate opens, not at the CD's whim, but with max height at 3,000ft AGL it opens 10 minutes after the last glider in the class starts to be towed. For every 200ft added to max height, add 1 minute. No ifs, no buts. The only thing the CD can do after that is cancel the task and have a rebrief before the gate opens if it is UNSAFE to continue. Nobody pretended that gliding was fair when I was a boy in the Nationals. The winner was the pilot with most points after the last day, however it panned out. With 20/20 hindsight everything is clear, unfortunately that is not, by definition, available at the time a problem occurs. Peter has described the UK position accurately except the Director can also cancel a task for sporting reasons as well as safety reasons and may also change the location of the drop zone. In the case described the director could have cancelled launching, recalled the field and wither scrubbed or rebriefed. If the gate had been opened then the result would have stood. Once the gate is opened there can only be a retask if ALL competitors land back. Under UK rules it is not permitted to cancel a competition day if a competitor finishes the task and in the case described above the day could not have been cancelled. I have to say I have great sympathy with JJ in this case as he, and the other competitors have been subjected to gross unfairness. It is not their fault that the problem arose. The jury have acted unfairly to many in an attempt to be fair to a few. I suggest you need to look at your rules. I know soccer is not the most popular game in the US but if after a game it was discovered, and it frequently is, that a winning goal has been allowed which was either not a goal or the result of a foul the result of the match still stands. |
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My sympathies are entirely with John Sinclair. If all competitors are given
a launch before the start line opens, but a few of them fail to soar and land out or land back, that is their problem. It has happened to me to me on a couple of occasions, when I fell down and was then unable to get away from a relight due to deteriorating conditions. Tough t*tty. I think this decision sets a dangerous precedent. If a competitor was leading with one day to go, he could deliberately land out, then claim that he wasn't given a fair opportunity to compete and get the day scrubbed to the detriment of his closest competitors. Derek Copeland |
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