On pre-flight inspections

"vaughn" wrote in message
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"a" wrote in message
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I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

I once watched a rental 172 return from an apparently uneventful flight
with the rudder lock still attached to the rudder. Take-home lesson: Some
folks fly flat-footed.

Also, at least twice I have ran down and stopped planes on the taxiway
with flags flying from left-on pitot covers. Take-home lesson: One good
reason to put flags on them is so someone else can save your bacon after
you do a crappy preflight.

Vaughn


I nearly started an engine with a propeller lock still in place--and was
fortunate enough to have someone wave my down in time. Due to lucky timing
and the good samaritan, there was no damage.

On another occassion I saw one of the twin engine air taxis, I don't recall
whether it was a Navajo or a C402, pull away with a rudder lock still in
place. There was no radio available and no way to get a motor vehicle onto
the ramp quickly enough; but the tower had a listed telephone number on that
field, so I was able to call them before he got to the runway.

Peter

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"Peter Dohm" wrote:

"vaughn" wrote in message
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"a" wrote in message
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I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

I once watched a rental 172 return from an apparently uneventful flight
with the rudder lock still attached to the rudder. Take-home lesson: Some
folks fly flat-footed.

Also, at least twice I have ran down and stopped planes on the taxiway
with flags flying from left-on pitot covers. Take-home lesson: One good
reason to put flags on them is so someone else can save your bacon after
you do a crappy preflight.

Vaughn


I nearly started an engine with a propeller lock still in place--and was
fortunate enough to have someone wave my down in time. Due to lucky timing
and the good samaritan, there was no damage.

Heh, funny you should mention that. I once forgot to remove an orange
cone that the FBO had "helpfully" placed in front of the prop. It's
amazing what a propeller -- even one not moving at full speed -- can do
to an orange cone. That one set me back quite a bit as well.

rg

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:25:04 -0700, Ron Garret wrote:

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"Peter Dohm" wrote:

"vaughn" wrote in message
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"a" wrote in message
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I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

I once watched a rental 172 return from an apparently uneventful flight
with the rudder lock still attached to the rudder. Take-home lesson: Some
folks fly flat-footed.

Also, at least twice I have ran down and stopped planes on the taxiway
with flags flying from left-on pitot covers. Take-home lesson: One good
reason to put flags on them is so someone else can save your bacon after
you do a crappy preflight.

Vaughn


I nearly started an engine with a propeller lock still in place--and was
fortunate enough to have someone wave my down in time. Due to lucky timing
and the good samaritan, there was no damage.

Heh, funny you should mention that. I once forgot to remove an orange
cone that the FBO had "helpfully" placed in front of the prop. It's
amazing what a propeller -- even one not moving at full speed -- can do
to an orange cone. That one set me back quite a bit as well.

rg

Are cones expensive or are your poor?

Franklin

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Franklin "Franklin wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:25:04 -0700, Ron Garret wrote:

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"Peter Dohm" wrote:

"vaughn" wrote in message
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"a" wrote in message
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I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

I once watched a rental 172 return from an apparently uneventful flight
with the rudder lock still attached to the rudder. Take-home lesson:
Some
folks fly flat-footed.

Also, at least twice I have ran down and stopped planes on the taxiway
with flags flying from left-on pitot covers. Take-home lesson: One good
reason to put flags on them is so someone else can save your bacon after
you do a crappy preflight.

Vaughn


I nearly started an engine with a propeller lock still in place--and was
fortunate enough to have someone wave my down in time. Due to lucky
timing
and the good samaritan, there was no damage.

Heh, funny you should mention that. I once forgot to remove an orange
cone that the FBO had "helpfully" placed in front of the prop. It's
amazing what a propeller -- even one not moving at full speed -- can do
to an orange cone. That one set me back quite a bit as well.

rg

Are cones expensive or are your poor?

Franklin

Cones are cheap, but engine rebuilds after a prop strike aren't. (I
was, of course, referring not to money, but to the time it took to
consult with a mechanic to convince myself that a rebuild would not be
necessary.)

rg

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:09:30 -0700, Ron Garret wrote:

In article ,
Franklin "Franklin wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:25:04 -0700, Ron Garret wrote:

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"Peter Dohm" wrote:

"vaughn" wrote in message
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"a" wrote in message
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I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

I once watched a rental 172 return from an apparently uneventful flight
with the rudder lock still attached to the rudder. Take-home lesson:
Some
folks fly flat-footed.

Also, at least twice I have ran down and stopped planes on the taxiway
with flags flying from left-on pitot covers. Take-home lesson: One good
reason to put flags on them is so someone else can save your bacon after
you do a crappy preflight.

Vaughn


I nearly started an engine with a propeller lock still in place--and was
fortunate enough to have someone wave my down in time. Due to lucky
timing
and the good samaritan, there was no damage.

Heh, funny you should mention that. I once forgot to remove an orange
cone that the FBO had "helpfully" placed in front of the prop. It's
amazing what a propeller -- even one not moving at full speed -- can do
to an orange cone. That one set me back quite a bit as well.

rg

Are cones expensive or are your poor?

Franklin

Cones are cheap, but engine rebuilds after a prop strike aren't. (I
was, of course, referring not to money, but to the time it took to
consult with a mechanic to convince myself that a rebuild would not be
necessary.)

rg

Please be more clear for the beginners next time.

Franklin

"Franklin " "Franklin wrote in message
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:09:30 -0700, Ron Garret wrote:

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Franklin "Franklin wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:25:04 -0700, Ron Garret wrote:

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"Peter Dohm" wrote:

"vaughn" wrote in message
...

"a" wrote in message
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I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

I once watched a rental 172 return from an apparently uneventful
flight
with the rudder lock still attached to the rudder. Take-home lesson:
Some
folks fly flat-footed.

Also, at least twice I have ran down and stopped planes on the
taxiway
with flags flying from left-on pitot covers. Take-home lesson: One
good
reason to put flags on them is so someone else can save your bacon
after
you do a crappy preflight.

Vaughn


I nearly started an engine with a propeller lock still in place--and
was
fortunate enough to have someone wave my down in time. Due to lucky
timing
and the good samaritan, there was no damage.

Heh, funny you should mention that. I once forgot to remove an orange
cone that the FBO had "helpfully" placed in front of the prop. It's
amazing what a propeller -- even one not moving at full speed -- can do
to an orange cone. That one set me back quite a bit as well.

rg

Are cones expensive or are your poor?

Franklin

Cones are cheap, but engine rebuilds after a prop strike aren't. (I
was, of course, referring not to money, but to the time it took to
consult with a mechanic to convince myself that a rebuild would not be
necessary.)

rg

Please be more clear for the beginners next time.

Franklin

It was sufficiently clear to the rest.

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:29:14 -0400, Peter Dohm wrote:

"Franklin " "Franklin wrote in message
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:09:30 -0700, Ron Garret wrote:

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Franklin "Franklin wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:25:04 -0700, Ron Garret wrote:

In article ,
"Peter Dohm" wrote:

"vaughn" wrote in message
...

"a" wrote in message
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I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

I once watched a rental 172 return from an apparently uneventful
flight
with the rudder lock still attached to the rudder. Take-home lesson:
Some
folks fly flat-footed.

Also, at least twice I have ran down and stopped planes on the
taxiway
with flags flying from left-on pitot covers. Take-home lesson: One
good
reason to put flags on them is so someone else can save your bacon
after
you do a crappy preflight.

Vaughn


I nearly started an engine with a propeller lock still in place--and
was
fortunate enough to have someone wave my down in time. Due to lucky
timing
and the good samaritan, there was no damage.

Heh, funny you should mention that. I once forgot to remove an orange
cone that the FBO had "helpfully" placed in front of the prop. It's
amazing what a propeller -- even one not moving at full speed -- can do
to an orange cone. That one set me back quite a bit as well.

rg

Are cones expensive or are your poor?

Franklin

Cones are cheap, but engine rebuilds after a prop strike aren't. (I
was, of course, referring not to money, but to the time it took to
consult with a mechanic to convince myself that a rebuild would not be
necessary.)

rg

Please be more clear for the beginners next time.

Franklin

It was sufficiently clear to the rest.

Which has nothing to do with my remark. Troll on.

Franklin

In article , lefty133
@bellsouth.net says...
"vaughn" wrote in message
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"a" wrote in message
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I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

I once watched a rental 172 return from an apparently uneventful flight
with the rudder lock still attached to the rudder. Take-home lesson: Some
folks fly flat-footed.

Also, at least twice I have ran down and stopped planes on the taxiway
with flags flying from left-on pitot covers. Take-home lesson: One good
reason to put flags on them is so someone else can save your bacon after
you do a crappy preflight.

Vaughn


I nearly started an engine with a propeller lock still in place--and was
fortunate enough to have someone wave my down in time. Due to lucky timing
and the good samaritan, there was no damage.

How on earth did your pre-flight (spin the prop over?) not catch that
one!

--
Duncan

On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:48:00 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:

In article , lefty133
@bellsouth.net says...
"vaughn" wrote in message
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"a" wrote in message
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I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

I once watched a rental 172 return from an apparently uneventful flight
with the rudder lock still attached to the rudder. Take-home lesson: Some
folks fly flat-footed.

Also, at least twice I have ran down and stopped planes on the taxiway
with flags flying from left-on pitot covers. Take-home lesson: One good
reason to put flags on them is so someone else can save your bacon after
you do a crappy preflight.

Vaughn


I nearly started an engine with a propeller lock still in place--and was
fortunate enough to have someone wave my down in time. Due to lucky timing
and the good samaritan, there was no damage.

How on earth did your pre-flight (spin the prop over?) not catch that
one!

It is obvious that Vaughn is very inexperienced.

"Dave Doe" wrote in message
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In article , lefty133
@bellsouth.net says...
"vaughn" wrote in message
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"a" wrote in message
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I did watch a PA28 do turns around a tiedown once because the PIC
didn't untie the left wing before trying to taxi out.

I once watched a rental 172 return from an apparently uneventful flight
with the rudder lock still attached to the rudder. Take-home lesson:
Some
folks fly flat-footed.

Also, at least twice I have ran down and stopped planes on the taxiway
with flags flying from left-on pitot covers. Take-home lesson: One
good
reason to put flags on them is so someone else can save your bacon
after
you do a crappy preflight.

Vaughn


I nearly started an engine with a propeller lock still in place--and was
fortunate enough to have someone wave my down in time. Due to lucky
timing
and the good samaritan, there was no damage.

How on earth did your pre-flight (spin the prop over?) not catch that
one!

--
Duncan

It was a bit more than 25 years ago and I've forgotten the bit of trivia
that led to the error, other than the fact that I was only there to exercise
the engine and not to fly; but it was also a good illustration of why
maintenance operations need the same attention to detail and safety as
flight operations.

The cowling shape of the particular aircraft allowed a cable type lock to
remain partially hidden from view, when seated in the left front, and my
solution was to add a bright yellow wrapping with tassels--so that any
repetition would be obvious from inside the cabin and also nearly impossible
to forget on the walkaround.

Peter