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Old August 3rd 09, 05:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
K M
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Default A380 hard landing at Oshkosh - video

On Aug 1, 10:39*am, "Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote:

Yowser!


Bob is right about this one . Another thing about certification is
that a transport category plane is certified to touch down in a crab
right up to its cross wind limit . The idiot narrating this video
should try landing one of these in a cross wind without contacting
the ground with the engine nacelle . On the Boeing you only get a few
degrees before this becomes a factor . Gyder is an idiot .
FB
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Old August 5th 09, 03:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dave[_19_]
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Default A380 hard landing at Oshkosh - video

Agreed!

They HAVE to be landed in a crab, or you drag that expensive #1 0r #4
engine on the rny!

They are designed to handle the side stress....

Tires (are still) cheaper than engines....

Dave




On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:16:27 -0700 (PDT), K M wrote:

On Aug 1, 10:39*am, "Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote:

Yowser!


Bob is right about this one . Another thing about certification is
that a transport category plane is certified to touch down in a crab
right up to its cross wind limit . The idiot narrating this video
should try landing one of these in a cross wind without contacting
the ground with the engine nacelle . On the Boeing you only get a few
degrees before this becomes a factor . Gyder is an idiot .
FB


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Old August 5th 09, 03:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Smith
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Default A380 hard landing at Oshkosh - video

Dave wrote:
They HAVE to be landed in a crab, or you drag that expensive #1 0r #4
engine on the rny!


Actually, they *can* decrab in the flare to some extent. Those huge
planes have sufficient inertia that they don't get instantly blown off
the runway even with the wings level. It's the pilot's choice whether he
wants to try a nice landing or just keep it simple and safe.

They are designed to handle the side stress....


Of course.
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Old August 5th 09, 07:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Peter Dohm
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Default A380 hard landing at Oshkosh - video

"John Smith" wrote in message
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Dave wrote:
They HAVE to be landed in a crab, or you drag that expensive #1 0r #4
engine on the rny!


Actually, they *can* decrab in the flare to some extent. Those huge planes
have sufficient inertia that they don't get instantly blown off the runway
even with the wings level. It's the pilot's choice whether he wants to try
a nice landing or just keep it simple and safe.

They are designed to handle the side stress....


Of course.


Actually, this has been discussed previously of this formu with regard to
certain Airbus models. Apparently, some allow the rudder to be used
independently, under some configurations, and some others might not. That
serious of discussions were related to another video clip that was
referenced and circulated a year or so ago.

Personally, I have no idea; but I admit that I am curious.

If you happen to have access to the operating manuals for the A380, would
you please be so kind as to divulge the control rules for the rudder just
prior to touchdown in the landing configuration.

Peter


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Old August 5th 09, 09:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Smith
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Default A380 hard landing at Oshkosh - video

Peter Dohm wrote:

If you happen to have access to the operating manuals for the A380, would
you please be so kind as to divulge the control rules for the rudder just
prior to touchdown in the landing configuration.


I don't have access to operation manuals, but this clip of two test
landings at Keflavik (Iceland) with crosswinds between 40 and 50 knots
should answer the question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5pGlw4o3Ks
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Old August 6th 09, 06:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Panic
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Default A380 hard landing at Oshkosh - video

Yeah. That is why they designed the B-52 with a crosswind landing gear.
The main struts can be hydraulically turned up to 20° so that, while landing
in a crab the main gear is aligned with the runway. A wing low cross
controlled approach and landing is not feasible with an aircraft that
large... plus the outrigger landing gear.

Darrell R. Schmidt
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http://members.cox.net/dschmidt1/
USAF Pilot Class 55-I Web Site
http://pilotclass55india.org/

"Dave" wrote in message
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Agreed!

They HAVE to be landed in a crab, or you drag that expensive #1 0r #4
engine on the rny!

They are designed to handle the side stress....

Tires (are still) cheaper than engines....

Dave




On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:16:27 -0700 (PDT), K M wrote:

On Aug 1, 10:39 am, "Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote:

Yowser!


Bob is right about this one . Another thing about certification is
that a transport category plane is certified to touch down in a crab
right up to its cross wind limit . The idiot narrating this video
should try landing one of these in a cross wind without contacting
the ground with the engine nacelle . On the Boeing you only get a few
degrees before this becomes a factor . Gyder is an idiot .
FB




 




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