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Old August 4th 09, 07:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin X. Moleski, SJ
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On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:11:15 -0500, "scott" wrote in :

"Mike Granby" wrote in message
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Anyone else see his Oshkosh tirade? Excellent stuff!


No, I didn't, so....got a link?


http://www.airventure.org/news/2009/090731_rutan.html

https://twitter.com/stgarrity/status/3072354918

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Old August 4th 09, 07:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Slides here, but no audio, which was of course the best bit...

http://www.slideshare.net/QuestSyste...anv5-read-only
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Old August 7th 09, 10:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote:

On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:11:15 -0500, "scott" wrote in
:

"Mike Granby" wrote in message
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Anyone else see his Oshkosh tirade? Excellent stuff!


No, I didn't, so....got a link?


http://www.airventure.org/news/2009/090731_rutan.html



"He said data shows that concerns about global warming are false. "CO2 is
plant food, not a pollutant," he said. "It's been 20 times as high as it
now. If you have a 1.2 percent increase in cloud formation and
precipitation, it offsets a 100 percent increase of CO2 in the atmosphere."

Gosh, Burt Rutan is climate genius, too! He knows more than the scientists.
Impressive!

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Old August 8th 09, 12:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Logajan
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"Dan Luke" wrote:
"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote:
http://www.airventure.org/news/2009/090731_rutan.html


"He said data shows that concerns about global warming are false. "CO2
is plant food, not a pollutant," he said. "It's been 20 times as high
as it now. If you have a 1.2 percent increase in cloud formation and
precipitation, it offsets a 100 percent increase of CO2 in the
atmosphere."

Gosh, Burt Rutan is climate genius, too!


So which of his numbers is wrong?

He knows more than the scientists. Impressive!


"Locus ab auctoritate est infirmissimus"

But here's his CV anyway:
http://www.roycecarlton.com/speaker-...riculum-Vitae/
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Old August 8th 09, 01:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. .
"Dan Luke" wrote:
"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote:
http://www.airventure.org/news/2009/090731_rutan.html


"He said data shows that concerns about global warming are false. "CO2
is plant food, not a pollutant," he said. "It's been 20 times as high
as it now. If you have a 1.2 percent increase in cloud formation and
precipitation, it offsets a 100 percent increase of CO2 in the
atmosphere."

Gosh, Burt Rutan is climate genius, too!


So which of his numbers is wrong?


Which of his numbers is relevant?

He knows more than the scientists. Impressive!


"Locus ab auctoritate est infirmissimus"


I would say the argument from cluelessness is weakest.

Rutan charged that climate scientists have it wrong, setting himself as a
superior authority. Is he?

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Old August 8th 09, 01:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]
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Dan Luke wrote:

I would say the argument from cluelessness is weakest.

Rutan charged that climate scientists have it wrong, setting himself
as a superior authority. Is he?


Rutan is in agreement with many climate scientists.


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Old August 8th 09, 02:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
m...
Dan Luke wrote:

I would say the argument from cluelessness is weakest.

Rutan charged that climate scientists have it wrong, setting himself
as a superior authority. Is he?


Rutan is in agreement with many climate scientists.

No, he isn't. Unless the definition of "many" equals 3 or 4.

Please provide cites.

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Old August 8th 09, 02:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Logajan
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"Dan Luke" wrote:
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
m...
Dan Luke wrote:

I would say the argument from cluelessness is weakest.

Rutan charged that climate scientists have it wrong, setting himself
as a superior authority. Is he?


Rutan is in agreement with many climate scientists.

No, he isn't. Unless the definition of "many" equals 3 or 4.

Please provide cites.


A few climate scientists are included he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...global_warming

Next up: a vote to determine which explanation of lift is correct.
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Old August 8th 09, 02:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dan Luke wrote:

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
m...
Dan Luke wrote:

I would say the argument from cluelessness is weakest.

Rutan charged that climate scientists have it wrong, setting himself
as a superior authority. Is he?


Rutan is in agreement with many climate scientists.

No, he isn't. Unless the definition of "many" equals 3 or 4.

Please provide cites.


Define what you are talking about.

Just about everyone agrees the past few decades are warmer than previous.

Not everyone agrees the cause is human.


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Old August 8th 09, 02:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]
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Dan Luke wrote:

No, he isn't. Unless the definition of "many" equals 3 or 4.

Please provide cites.


After you.



 




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