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Old September 8th 09, 06:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Steve Leonard[_2_]
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To get it to validate, you will need to run Carl Ekdahls conversion
program. Do a Google Search on "cai2igc4olc". Let this program make
your .igc file, and it will upload as a valid file for OLC.

All sorts of little de-coder rings you've got to have when you enter the
electronic age with old school electronics!

Steve
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Old September 8th 09, 06:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Brad[_2_]
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On Sep 7, 10:30*pm, Steve Leonard wrote:
To get it to validate, you will need to run Carl Ekdahls conversion
program. *Do a Google Search on "cai2igc4olc". *Let this program make
your .igc file, and it will upload as a valid file for OLC.

All sorts of little de-coder rings you've got to have when you enter the
electronic age with old school electronics!

Steve


Steve,

If I convert a garmin gdb file to and igc file using that Carl Ekdahls
conversion program, can I get rid of the V in the red circle? I log
using a Garmin map 60 and also XC-Soar, XC-Soar logs an igc file, it
gets scored but is never valid!

thanks,
Brad
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Old September 8th 09, 02:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
vontresc
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On Sep 8, 12:45*am, Brad wrote:
On Sep 7, 10:30*pm, Steve Leonard wrote:

To get it to validate, you will need to run Carl Ekdahls conversion
program. *Do a Google Search on "cai2igc4olc". *Let this program make
your .igc file, and it will upload as a valid file for OLC.


All sorts of little de-coder rings you've got to have when you enter the
electronic age with old school electronics!


Steve


Steve,

If I convert a garmin gdb file to and igc file using that Carl Ekdahls
conversion program, can I get rid of the V in the red circle? I log
using a Garmin map 60 and also XC-Soar, XC-Soar logs an igc file, it
gets scored but is never valid!

thanks,
Brad


Brad, check out the list of approved software for the OLC here.

http://www2.onlinecontest.org/validate.php

The easiest solution would be to use SeeYou as it can download
directly from your Garmin IIRC, but you will need to buy the software.
If you are a frugal glider pilot like we all are you can use G7toWin,
which will download directly from your Garmin unit, and create an olc
valid .igc file.

http://www.gpsinformation.org/ronh/g7towin.htm

Peter
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Old September 8th 09, 06:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Greg Arnold
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Steve Leonard wrote:
To get it to validate, you will need to run Carl Ekdahls conversion
program. Do a Google Search on "cai2igc4olc". Let this program make
your .igc file, and it will upload as a valid file for OLC.

All sorts of little de-coder rings you've got to have when you enter the
electronic age with old school electronics!

Steve


You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as an IGC
file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.
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Old September 8th 09, 01:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Steve Leonard[_2_]
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At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as an IGC

file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.


That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. Not too likely with a
borrowed logger! But, yes, that will also work.

Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. You might look at your garmin
file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a .cai file.
If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try the program.
You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and a few "k"
of memory on the old machine!

And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to my
loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking with it
through a REAL serial port. No USB hub there! But to get any further, I
have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a newer
computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. All my tlaking to the
logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial viewing.
Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.

Still Old School for sure,

Steve
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Old September 8th 09, 02:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
jcarlyle
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When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file in
both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
proof.

-John

Steve Leonard wrote:
At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as an IGC

file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.


That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. Not too likely with a
borrowed logger! But, yes, that will also work.

Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. You might look at your garmin
file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a .cai file.
If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try the program.
You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and a few "k"
of memory on the old machine!

And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to my
loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking with it
through a REAL serial port. No USB hub there! But to get any further, I
have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a newer
computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. All my tlaking to the
logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial viewing.
Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.

Still Old School for sure,

Steve

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Old September 8th 09, 02:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
brianDG303[_2_]
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On Sep 8, 6:07*am, jcarlyle wrote:
When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file in
both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
proof.

-John



Steve Leonard wrote:
At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as an IGC

file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.


That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. *Not too likely with a
borrowed logger! *But, yes, that will also work.


Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. *You might look at your garmin
file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a .cai file.
*If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try the program.
*You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and a few "k"
of memory on the old machine!


And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to my
loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking with it
through a REAL serial port. *No USB hub there! *But to get any further, I
have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a newer
computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. *All my tlaking to the
logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial viewing.
Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.


Still Old School for sure,


Steve- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.

Brian
  #8  
Old September 8th 09, 03:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
vontresc
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On Sep 8, 8:56*am, brianDG303 wrote:
On Sep 8, 6:07*am, jcarlyle wrote:





When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file in
both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
proof.


-John


Steve Leonard wrote:
At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as an IGC
file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.


That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. *Not too likely with a
borrowed logger! *But, yes, that will also work.


Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. *You might look at your garmin
file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a .cai file.
*If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try the program.
*You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and a few "k"
of memory on the old machine!


And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to my
loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking with it
through a REAL serial port. *No USB hub there! *But to get any further, I
have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a newer
computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. *All my tlaking to the
logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial viewing.
Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.


Still Old School for sure,


Steve- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.

Brian- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yeah I did this, too. Actually that was a great selling tool since I
bought a license when my trial expired :-)

Pete
  #9  
Old September 8th 09, 05:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Peter Wyld[_2_]
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Default OK someone help me

At 14:19 08 September 2009, vontresc wrote:
On Sep 8, 8:56=A0am, brianDG303 wrote:
On Sep 8, 6:07=A0am, jcarlyle wrote:





When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file

in
both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
proof.


-John


Steve Leonard wrote:
At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as

an
I=
GC
file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.


That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. =A0Not too likely

with=
a
borrowed logger! =A0But, yes, that will also work.


Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. =A0You might look at your

gar=
min
file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a

cai
=
file.
=A0If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try

the
=
program.
=A0You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and

a
fe=
w "k"
of memory on the old machine!


And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to

my
loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking

with
i=
t
through a REAL serial port. =A0No USB hub there! =A0But to get any

fu=
rther, I
have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a

newer
computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. =A0All my

tlaking
=
to the
logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial

view=
ing.
Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.


Still Old School for sure,


Steve- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.

Brian- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yeah I did this, too. Actually that was a great selling tool since I
bought a license when my trial expired :-)

Pete


Trial (Free, unlicenced) SeeYou runs for two weeks with full
functionality, after that bits begin to stop working, but I believe the
downloader will keep on working forever. For Cambridge 20/25 it works
better with a USB-Serial converter (it's a timing thing apparently)

There are plenty of free programs which will do your Cambridge 10/20/25
download and conversion, including Cambridge utility and Cambridge Aero
Explorer (both available freely from the Cambridge Instruments' website),
there are also the old Dos download and validate programs if you've got
really ancient hardware to run it on!

Cambridge Aero Explorer:
http://www.cambridge-aero.com/CA_exp...tm#pc_software
Cambridge Utility:
http://www.cambridge-aero.com/execut...tilInstall.zip
Dos programs:
http://www.fai.org/gliding/gnss/freeware.asp

For most everything except Cambridge, you can use the IGC Shell program
and appropriate dll
http://www.fai.org/gliding/gnss/freeware.asp

  #10  
Old September 8th 09, 05:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Brad[_2_]
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On Sep 8, 6:56*am, brianDG303 wrote:
On Sep 8, 6:07*am, jcarlyle wrote:





When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file in
both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
proof.


-John


Steve Leonard wrote:
At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as an IGC
file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.


That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. *Not too likely with a
borrowed logger! *But, yes, that will also work.


Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. *You might look at your garmin
file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a .cai file.
*If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try the program.
*You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and a few "k"
of memory on the old machine!


And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to my
loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking with it
through a REAL serial port. *No USB hub there! *But to get any further, I
have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a newer
computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. *All my tlaking to the
logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial viewing.
Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.


Still Old School for sure,


Steve- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.

Brian


I do have a licensed copy of SeeYou for the PC. I got the key after I
realized that it really turns to cripple ware after the trial.

I open my XCsoar generated igc files to view at them in SeeYou before
I post to OLC.............should I do a save or a save-as from SeeYou
to validate the igc file?

Thanks,
Brad
 




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