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![]() "robert arndt" wrote in message om... The facts: Only according to you. I have approx. 1,230 posts logged in the Google archive. snip In other words just 28% of 600 posts are German-related. snip Actually, use of advanced Google search with *some* basic German-related keywords ("includes any of the following") to screen those 1230 posts of Arndt's resulted in 369 "hits". That is a 30% correlation, *not* 28%, and it is not a complete result--how many more of his posts were including German-related topics can only be determined by further individual post screening. Basically Chad is a liar and I resent his misrepresentation of me on this NG. You have yet to prove conclusively that his assertion is incorrect--your own 28% figure is obviously flawed, to your advantage of course, based upon only basic review. Rob p.s. For all those people who find my posts informative; to those whom I've helped do research for; to those that like German AND foreign equipment OT or not, I will continue to post as I always have. For those who think I am some rabid neo-nazi fanatic please look at the entire record. The pics of US aircraft alone I have posted is more than any of the German content combined. And I have not forgotten the UK, France, Sweden, Belgium, Italy, Russia, Japan, Israel, South Africa, etc... None of which lessens your tendancy to indeed expand upon any and contrived/alleged German superiority of all manners. Brooks |
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"robert arndt" wrote in message om... The facts: Only according to you. I have approx. 1,230 posts logged in the Google archive. snip In other words just 28% of 600 posts are German-related. snip Actually, use of advanced Google search with *some* basic German-related keywords ("includes any of the following") to screen those 1230 posts of Arndt's resulted in 369 "hits". That is a 30% correlation, *not* 28%, and it is not a complete result--how many more of his posts were including German-related topics can only be determined by further individual post screening. Basically Chad is a liar and I resent his misrepresentation of me on this NG. You have yet to prove conclusively that his assertion is incorrect--your own 28% figure is obviously flawed, to your advantage of course, based upon only basic review. Rob p.s. For all those people who find my posts informative; to those whom I've helped do research for; to those that like German AND foreign equipment OT or not, I will continue to post as I always have. For those who think I am some rabid neo-nazi fanatic please look at the entire record. The pics of US aircraft alone I have posted is more than any of the German content combined. And I have not forgotten the UK, France, Sweden, Belgium, Italy, Russia, Japan, Israel, South Africa, etc... None of which lessens your tendancy to indeed expand upon any and contrived/alleged German superiority of all manners. Brooks Brooks, you cannot count any mention of international programs like Airbus, Eurofighter, A400M, where the word German appears. Chad's argument is about all my RAM posts beignabout German tech and Nazi/German superiority. I can assure you those posts are rare and a lot of it has to do with people who know nothing about the achievements of German aviation from gliders-to Zeppelins-to airliners-jets, rockets, etc... Those people always irritate me to no end I end up laying it thick on the Third Reich stuff. Sorry. As for new developments, everyone here has added something, usually OT, to discuss. Ask Tex, the RAM non-aviation content monitor, how many posts are about small arms, AFVs, ships, airliners, and spacecraft. I just want to add what I can for this NG. Many of my posts helped identify aircraft and parts. Others helped people find certain aviation-related items or sites. Other just provided photographic proof of rare German aircraft and tech. So why all the fuss? I get tired on people using the Nazi term on me. I love history and can equally go on about the Egyptians, Babylonians, Assyrians, Medes, Persians, Greeks, Romans, Celts, Vikings, Huns, Mongels, Turks, etc... but this is RAM and I guess I gotta answer those questions that deal with German aircraft and tech. You can't say that all of it is a waste. I'm sure many here never knew at least 50 German aircraft of the Reich that I referred to or supplied photographic proof of. I love black projects, little known facts, rare and unique aircraft, etc... You would think by now that the regulars would ease up... Rob |
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![]() "robert arndt" wrote in message om... "Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... "robert arndt" wrote in message om... The facts: Only according to you. I have approx. 1,230 posts logged in the Google archive. snip In other words just 28% of 600 posts are German-related. snip Actually, use of advanced Google search with *some* basic German-related keywords ("includes any of the following") to screen those 1230 posts of Arndt's resulted in 369 "hits". That is a 30% correlation, *not* 28%, and it is not a complete result--how many more of his posts were including German-related topics can only be determined by further individual post screening. Basically Chad is a liar and I resent his misrepresentation of me on this NG. You have yet to prove conclusively that his assertion is incorrect--your own 28% figure is obviously flawed, to your advantage of course, based upon only basic review. Rob p.s. For all those people who find my posts informative; to those whom I've helped do research for; to those that like German AND foreign equipment OT or not, I will continue to post as I always have. For those who think I am some rabid neo-nazi fanatic please look at the entire record. The pics of US aircraft alone I have posted is more than any of the German content combined. And I have not forgotten the UK, France, Sweden, Belgium, Italy, Russia, Japan, Israel, South Africa, etc... None of which lessens your tendancy to indeed expand upon any and contrived/alleged German superiority of all manners. Brooks Brooks, you cannot count any mention of international programs like Airbus, Eurofighter, A400M, where the word German appears. Chad's argument is about all my RAM posts beignabout German tech and Nazi/German superiority. I can assure you those posts are rare Rare? I have read three posts from you today, and ALL have dealt with German equipment--at least one was another "Germans did it better" crap post. You are not exactly making your case too well here. Brooks snip |
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![]() Brooks, you cannot count any mention of international programs like Airbus, Eurofighter, A400M, where the word German appears. Chad's argument is about all my RAM posts beignabout German tech and Nazi/German superiority. I can assure you those posts are rare Rare? I have read three posts from you today, and ALL have dealt with German equipment--at least one was another "Germans did it better" crap post. You are not exactly making your case too well here. Brooks Actually I posted 4 yesterday. Recap: 1) Global Flyer: non-German, general aviation 2) HG II Pic: Artwork for those interested in what the plane might have looked like in flight since no photo has been found of HG II so far, a further addition to the previous HG thread 3) Me-262A-1a/U-3: rare recon Me-262 pic but got wrong link, corrected today No comment of superiority, just a rare bird pic 4) HK CAWS: As stated earlier I have a right to address any attack made against me. Ariennya said the Germans couldn't make shotguns and I proved her wrong. And in that case the HK CAWS was at the time the world's best autoshotgun. Today many would argue that it is the Italian SPAS-15. I do not disagree. Can you please tell how me posting on German aviation is a crime since this is an aviation NG. You don't complain about the USA-NUMBER-ONE fanatics who blatantly disregard everyone else's aeronautical achievements, forgetting that a large part of the good ole USA is ethnically German- actually THE ethnic majority since 1990... and that their contribution to US aviation and arms tech is unavoidable and inseperable. Bet you hate that ![]() Rob |
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![]() "robert arndt" wrote in message om... Brooks, you cannot count any mention of international programs like Airbus, Eurofighter, A400M, where the word German appears. Chad's argument is about all my RAM posts beignabout German tech and Nazi/German superiority. I can assure you those posts are rare Rare? I have read three posts from you today, and ALL have dealt with German equipment--at least one was another "Germans did it better" crap post. You are not exactly making your case too well here. Brooks Actually I posted 4 yesterday. Recap: 1) Global Flyer: non-German, general aviation 2) HG II Pic: Artwork for those interested in what the plane might have looked like in flight since no photo has been found of HG II so far, a further addition to the previous HG thread 3) Me-262A-1a/U-3: rare recon Me-262 pic but got wrong link, corrected today No comment of superiority, just a rare bird pic 4) HK CAWS: As stated earlier I have a right to address any attack made against me. Ariennya said the Germans couldn't make shotguns and I proved her wrong. And in that case the HK CAWS was at the time the world's best autoshotgun. Today many would argue that it is the Italian SPAS-15. I do not disagree. Can you please tell how me posting on German aviation is a crime since this is an aviation NG. You don't complain about the USA-NUMBER-ONE fanatics who blatantly disregard everyone else's aeronautical achievements, forgetting that a large part of the good ole USA is ethnically German- actually THE ethnic majority since 1990... and that their contribution to US aviation and arms tech is unavoidable and inseperable. Bet you hate that ![]() \ Where the HECK do you get the idea that the majority US ethnic group is GERMAN? What have you been smoking? You have grossly misinterpreted the US census data--read the fine print there, Robert. First, it is not a "majority", and second, it includes all manner of mixes (for example even I listed German as ONE of my contributing ancestry sources--from among MANY). That is why your German-stuff-is-always-superior crap is so tasteless--you base your half-baked assertions on tenuous, or in this case stretched, source info at best. Last year you were promising us a "new" German battle tank--where is this curious weapon (in reality the Bundeswehr is trying to preserve what strength it has remaining, is interested (like the rest of the western world) in finding lighter vehicles to replace its older heavier armor systems, and finally lacks the R&D budget to even attempt, had they wanted to, the development of a new MBT)? You have often pointed to some allegedly secret, yet flying and maybe even operational, German stealth aircraft--where is that one? Have you bothered to READ about how cash strapped the German military procurement and development budgets actually are? You live in some kind of strange dreamland, Robert--come join us back in the real world. Brooks Rob |
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Where the HECK do you get the idea that the majority US ethnic group is
GERMAN? What have you been smoking? According to the 1990 US Census the German-American ethnic group was number 1: http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/1990.html In the 2000 US Census, major sub-categories for caucasians was dropped. According to various statistical sources there were approx. 65 million Germans in the US in 2003 making them the number 1 ethnic majority group for a second decade now, surpassing both the Irish and British Americans. You have grossly misinterpreted the US census data--read the fine print there, Robert. First, it is not a "majority", and second, it includes all manner of mixes (for example even I listed German as ONE of my contributing ancestry sources--from among MANY). That is why your German-stuff-is-always-superior crap is so tasteless--you base your half-baked assertions on tenuous, or in this case stretched, source info at best. The 2000 Census criteria changed, I didn't misinterpret it at all. Last year you were promising us a "new" German battle tank--where is this curious weapon (in reality the Bundeswehr is trying to preserve what strength it has remaining, is interested (like the rest of the western world) in finding lighter vehicles to replace its older heavier armor systems, and finally lacks the R&D budget to even attempt, had they wanted to, the development of a new MBT)? To what specific post are you referring to? The Heer has already tested a Leopard II with 140mm main gun. DB was experimenting with a 50 ton wheeled tank which can be seen in the Concord Book "German Wheeled Fighting Vehicles" Series #7504 pg 48. That vehicle has been tested since 1995. On the "Flecktarn" online site you can see the RjPz Panther crane tank which is also testing. Then there is the fully tracked EGS tank trials vehicle by KMW seen in "New Vanguard 24: Leopard 2 Main Battle Tank 1979-1998" pg 47. Finally there is the EGS architecture applied to the Leopard III design in RAIDS SPECIAL No.5 "Les Chars en Action" pgs 81-82. You may also remember that the new IFV that was named Igel (Hedgehog) has now been redesignated Puma and is on track. That doesn't in any way interfere with the KMW submission for the Euro-wheeled family of AFVs- the MRAV. And then there is the ultra-futuristic Kpz Lowe in the design stage. So what are YOU talking about? You have often pointed to some allegedly secret, yet flying and maybe even operational, German stealth aircraft--where is that one? Have you bothered to READ about how cash strapped the German military procurement and development budgets actually are? You live in some kind of strange dreamland, Robert--come join us back in the real world. Well, that's why since reunification the Germans have replaced nearly all of their small arms, improved the Leopard II to world's finest MBT in the A5/6 models, introduced the PzH 2000 SPG- also the world's finest, the Fenneck, the Dingo, introduced IDZ supersoldier gear into the Balkans in 2002, created KSK special forces (rated up there with SAS- from scratch), are getting the Eurotiger and EC-635 helos, produced bio-engineered anthrax under the Heer's research program and sold some to the US in 2000/1, and contributed 13,000 troops to operations outside Germany. They will introduce the Taifun UCAV next year too. Meanwhile EADS is trying to get their Eurofighters, produce the Mako for light strike and export sales, participate in the A400M program, work on the stealth cruise misile and anti-stealth hardware and convert Airbus 310s into tankers and cargo carriers. Other missile programs are IRIS-T and Taurus S/O weapon. The German Navy is trying to get new stealth frigates, AIP SSK submarines, develop UUCVs, etc... Seems like a lot of projects for a nation with only 40 billion a year on defense compared to 400 billion by the US. I think they will accomplish more with less money until the EU unifies and the defense pot is merged. As for the Firefly II stealth aircraft, two were seen over the Overberg test range in the RSA years ago. The RSA allows Germany to test secret weapons there like they did off their coast with the German subs provided to Israel. Germany modified their launch tubes to fire the Popeye Turbo cruise missile and they tested it at sea off the RSA. German technicians were onboard. So I am not living in a fantasy world. You OTOH are in denial. Rob Brooks Rob |
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![]() "robert arndt" wrote in message om... Where the HECK do you get the idea that the majority US ethnic group is GERMAN? What have you been smoking? According to the 1990 US Census the German-American ethnic group was number 1: http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/1990.html In the 2000 US Census, major sub-categories for caucasians was dropped. According to various statistical sources there were approx. 65 million Germans in the US in 2003 making them the number 1 ethnic majority group for a second decade now, surpassing both the Irish and British Americans. You have grossly misinterpreted the US census data--read the fine print there, Robert. First, it is not a "majority", and second, it includes all manner of mixes (for example even I listed German as ONE of my contributing ancestry sources--from among MANY). That is why your German-stuff-is-always-superior crap is so tasteless--you base your half-baked assertions on tenuous, or in this case stretched, source info at best. The 2000 Census criteria changed, I didn't misinterpret it at all. You need to learn to read. Look up the definition of "majority"--your numbers do not add up to 51% or more of the US population. And again, before you go spouting off this crap, read how the census determined that figure--read especially about first, second, and total ancestry, then come back and tell me, one of the folks who listed German as ONE of my ancestry lines, just how that makes me "German American". Your lunacy is growing... Last year you were promising us a "new" German battle tank--where is this curious weapon (in reality the Bundeswehr is trying to preserve what strength it has remaining, is interested (like the rest of the western world) in finding lighter vehicles to replace its older heavier armor systems, and finally lacks the R&D budget to even attempt, had they wanted to, the development of a new MBT)? To what specific post are you referring to? The Heer has already tested a Leopard II with 140mm main gun. DB was experimenting with a 50 ton wheeled tank which can be seen in the Concord Book "German Wheeled Fighting Vehicles" Series #7504 pg 48. That vehicle has been tested since 1995. On the "Flecktarn" online site you can see the RjPz Panther crane tank which is also testing. Then there is the fully tracked EGS tank trials vehicle by KMW seen in "New Vanguard 24: Leopard 2 Main Battle Tank 1979-1998" pg 47. Finally there is the EGS architecture applied to the Leopard III design in RAIDS SPECIAL No.5 "Les Chars en Action" pgs 81-82. You may also remember that the new IFV that was named Igel (Hedgehog) has now been redesignated Puma and is on track. That doesn't in any way interfere with the KMW submission for the Euro-wheeled family of AFVs- the MRAV. And then there is the ultra-futuristic Kpz Lowe in the design stage. So what are YOU talking about? Where is the *new* tank you said the Wehrmacht was buying? H'mmm? Choose one. You have often pointed to some allegedly secret, yet flying and maybe even operational, German stealth aircraft--where is that one? Have you bothered to READ about how cash strapped the German military procurement and development budgets actually are? You live in some kind of strange dreamland, Robert--come join us back in the real world. Well, that's why since reunification the Germans have replaced nearly all of their small arms, improved the Leopard II to world's finest MBT in the A5/6 models, introduced the PzH 2000 SPG- also the world's finest, the Fenneck, the Dingo, introduced IDZ supersoldier gear into the Balkans in 2002, created KSK special forces (rated up there with SAS- from scratch), are getting the Eurotiger and EC-635 helos, produced bio-engineered anthrax under the Heer's research program and sold some to the US in 2000/1, and contributed 13,000 troops to operations outside Germany. They will introduce the Taifun UCAV next year too. Meanwhile EADS is trying to get their Eurofighters, produce the Mako for light strike and export sales, participate in the A400M program, work on the stealth cruise misile and anti-stealth hardware and convert Airbus 310s into tankers and cargo carriers. Other missile programs are IRIS-T and Taurus S/O weapon. The German Navy is trying to get new stealth frigates, AIP SSK submarines, develop UUCVs, etc... Seems like a lot of projects for a nation with only 40 billion a year on defense compared to 400 billion by the US. I think they will accomplish more with less money until the EU unifies and the defense pot is merged. As for the Firefly II stealth aircraft, two were seen over the Overberg test range in the RSA years ago. The RSA allows Germany to test secret weapons there like they did off their coast with the German subs provided to Israel. Germany modified their launch tubes to fire the Popeye Turbo cruise missile and they tested it at sea off the RSA. German technicians were onboard. So I am not living in a fantasy world. You OTOH are in denial. So you have no actual evidence. That figures. Brooks Rob Brooks Rob |
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