What a shock!!! Lockheed is over budget on the F-35

On Mon, 12 Jan 2004 08:32:20 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
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"Scott Ferrin" wrote in message
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I've seen the thing about assembly going back to the old way rather
than doing it modular like they did with the F-22 but I've never seen
the 35% increase in weight mentioned anywhere. I'd think 35% would
make headlines EVERYWHERE

It wouldn't matter what was pubished, Ferrin. You would still make the
same
ass of yourself WRT Lockmart products.


Hey splapsy, were's those strake pictures?

If it were not for John Cook and the Brit and Aussie press, Americans would
not have access to what Lockmart's airplane programs are doing. There is a
little in the
WSJ, but lockheed seems pretty good at creating a bad news blackout.

I John Cook for posting truth here.



No strakes huh? Didn't think so.

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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

"Scott Ferrin" wrote in message
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Hey splapsy, were's those strake pictures?

If it were not for John Cook and the Brit and Aussie press, Americans
would not have access to what Lockmart's airplane programs are doing.
There is a little in the WSJ, but lockheed seems pretty good at
creating a bad news blackout.

Translation: "The Eeeevil Lockheed Anti-Tarver Conspiracy is keeping the
F-22 strake photos from the world."

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"Scott Ferrin" wrote in message
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No strakes huh? Didn't think so.

I can dig you up articles where Lockmart suggests they will be trying
strakes and then another where Lockmart calls strakes the least apealing
solution to their "buffeting" problems, but you could do that yourself.

Anyway, thanks John Cook, keep up the honest work.

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

"Scott Ferrin" wrote in message
...


Hey splapsy, were's those strake pictures?

If it were not for John Cook and the Brit and Aussie press, Americans
would not have access to what Lockmart's airplane programs are doing.
There is a little in the WSJ, but lockheed seems pretty good at
creating a bad news blackout.

Translation: "The Eeeevil Lockheed Anti-Tarver Conspiracy is keeping the
F-22 strake photos from the world."

Lockmart is a customer.

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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

"Scott Ferrin" wrote in message
...

snip
No strakes huh? Didn't think so.

I can dig you up articles where Lockmart suggests they will be trying
strakes and then another where Lockmart calls strakes the least apealing
solution to their "buffeting" problems, but you could do that yourself.

If those articles actually existed.

There aren't any on the Web, aside from a few hits on the bombs carried
by the F-22 (they attach strakes to the sides of the JDAM).

So, since you *can* dig them up, you should.

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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote:

Translation: "The Eeeevil Lockheed Anti-Tarver Conspiracy is
keeping the F-22 strake photos from the world."

Lockmart is a customer.

Sure they are. Which is why they put up with the false comments you, as
a vendor, keep making on a regular basis.

Yeah, they're famous for being so understanding about that sort of thing.

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"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote:

Translation: "The Eeeevil Lockheed Anti-Tarver Conspiracy is
keeping the F-22 strake photos from the world."

Lockmart is a customer.

Sure they are. Which is why they put up with the false comments you, as
a vendor, keep making on a regular basis.

I only quote public sector published information on the F-22. Except for
the departure from controlled flight attempted cover up, but that was common
knowledge on eddies. It may take a Super Eagle to replace the F-15, much
like the bug.

As to the F-35, I have been a consistent supporter.

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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

I only quote public sector published information on the F-22.

Except for the stuff you can't quote, like the strakes thing.

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"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

I only quote public sector published information on the F-22.

Except for the stuff you can't quote, like the strakes thing.

Even the Lockmart email posted here assuring us that the titanium tail spar
is the fix for the F-22's tail problems mentions the strakes, Chad.

this thread is about problems with the F-35, please focus.

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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

I only quote public sector published information on the F-22.

Except for the stuff you can't quote, like the strakes thing.

Even the Lockmart email posted here assuring us that the titanium tail spar
is the fix for the F-22's tail problems mentions the strakes, Chad.

Funny, I can't seem to find that in Google. Refresh our memory on that
one (or are you imagining it again?).

this thread is about problems with the F-35, please focus.

But *this* part of the thread is about your tenuous connection with
reality. And funny how it wasn't about the F-35 when you posted this:

I can dig you up articles where Lockmart suggests they will be trying
strakes and then another where Lockmart calls strakes the least apealing
solution to their "buffeting" problems, but you could do that yourself.

Still waiting for that "digging," Tarver.

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