japanese war crimes-- was hiroshima

We showed how the Nazis put people in concentration
camps... yet we did the same thing.

If you honestly believe that the holding facilities we used, in direct response
to an unprovoked attack upon us, is even remotely similar to the KZ werks,
designed specifically to KILL its inmates, you are irrational. That's the
equiv of saying giving kids detention afterschool is the same as sending them
to Attica and shoving a needle in their arm.

People died in those camps

What, precisely, do you see the ratio as currently standing, Rob? How many
died in US camps vs German KZs? Tell us how close your analogy really is?

...and we
robbed those Americans of their dignity, freedom, liberty, their
lives, their business', and the pursuit of happiness.

Absolutely. And it was a horrible injustice, but not remotely similar to the
practice of genocide practiced openly in Germany.


Furthermore, we did some other unspeakable things like preventing many
Jews from emigrating to the US before WW2 and when we learned of the
death camps deliberately chose not to bomb the rail lines or attack
that hellish system at all or rescue any of those people.

All, uniformly bad decisions. But since we have the benefit of 60 years of
hindsight, its not surprising that those of us around today would make
different choices than those made back then. That still doesn't get us lumped
in with the Nazis -- but if it does in your view, that's awful.

Meanwhile in the US we treated German POWs better than negro soldiers
in uniform.

You're going off on a tangent here, but yes, if you are trying to suggest that
we were still "making progress" back then, then I'd agree.

snip OT Tuskeegee stuff

Medical studies akin to the Nazis racial hygiene laws were
performed in the US.

Really? We killed anyone with birth defects? Rob, every country fails to live
up to their best ideals; the difference is that the Nazis set up a nationwide
system to murder everyone they felt needed killing - and then they streamlined
the process to

oh, whats the use - this isn't really a debate and you couldn't care less what
I think on the subject.

Bottom line, how many millions, or thousands, or even hundreds of Nisei were
murdered on US Government order?

We were racist, anti-semetic, and greedy.

How many facilities did we produce specifically to murder jews?

But patriotism covers a
multitude of sins, right?

No, it doesn't. However, we participated in liberating dozens of countries in
WWII, allowing hundreds of millions of people, including yourself, to be born
into a better world than the one the Nazis envisioned. You and I have the
freedom of speech to argue about who what where; we wouldn't be having this
conversation in a postwar Nazi-controlled world. Big differences between
making mistakes and poor decisions and actively trying to eradicate a race.

Gordon