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Old December 4th 09, 07:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
cavelamb[_2_]
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Default visualisation of the lift distribution over a wing

Ok, so there is a low pressure field above the wing,
and the wing is pressed up from underneath.

So, just out of curiosity, what happens to the air
that was in the low pressure field above the wing -
after the wing passes?

Does it just magically co back to it's old ways
(and places)?

And the air that was in the high pressure field under
the wing?

After the wing passes, is it unaffected as well?




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Old December 4th 09, 08:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Beryl[_3_]
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Default visualisation of the lift distribution over a wing

cavelamb wrote:
Ok, so there is a low pressure field above the wing,
and the wing is pressed up from underneath.

So, just out of curiosity, what happens to the air
that was in the low pressure field above the wing -
after the wing passes?

Does it just magically co back to it's old ways
(and places)?

And the air that was in the high pressure field under
the wing?

After the wing passes, is it unaffected as well?


It's all a slowly descending smoke ring. If the earth was "the only
thing that finally stops it" as Alan says, none of the ring's energy
would be lost as it pushes through the surrounding air to reach the earth.

http://www.av8n.com/how/htm/airfoils.html#sec-circulation-vortices
Figure 3.27 ties the wingtip vortices in with the rest of the
circulation pattern, showing the whole smoke ring in red.

Also look up at section Section 3.11,
http://www.av8n.com/how/htm/airfoils.html#sec-spinners
Add the Fluttering Card circulation, Figure 3.25, to familiar tip
vortices, and you get the whole ring.

Other articles do a nice job explaining tip vortices or downwash behind
the wing as isolated subjects, but that's where they end their stories.
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Old December 5th 09, 01:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
cavelamb[_2_]
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Default visualisation of the lift distribution over a wing

Beryl wrote:
cavelamb wrote:
Ok, so there is a low pressure field above the wing,
and the wing is pressed up from underneath.

So, just out of curiosity, what happens to the air
that was in the low pressure field above the wing -
after the wing passes?

Does it just magically co back to it's old ways
(and places)?

And the air that was in the high pressure field under
the wing?

After the wing passes, is it unaffected as well?


It's all a slowly descending smoke ring. If the earth was "the only
thing that finally stops it" as Alan says, none of the ring's energy
would be lost as it pushes through the surrounding air to reach the earth.

http://www.av8n.com/how/htm/airfoils.html#sec-circulation-vortices
Figure 3.27 ties the wingtip vortices in with the rest of the
circulation pattern, showing the whole smoke ring in red.

Also look up at section Section 3.11,
http://www.av8n.com/how/htm/airfoils.html#sec-spinners
Add the Fluttering Card circulation, Figure 3.25, to familiar tip
vortices, and you get the whole ring.

Other articles do a nice job explaining tip vortices or downwash behind
the wing as isolated subjects, but that's where they end their stories.



I've seen the results first hand.

Flying along just above a smooth cloud surface at high subsonic,
the "wake" behind the leader makes a shallow trough in the cloud,
then the edges swirl back up into the tip vortices.

The high pressure air underneath rebounds up, and the low pressure
field above the wing rebounds back down.

Net result = zero.

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Old December 5th 09, 03:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Alan Baker
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Default visualisation of the lift distribution over a wing

In article ,
cavelamb wrote:

Beryl wrote:
cavelamb wrote:
Ok, so there is a low pressure field above the wing,
and the wing is pressed up from underneath.

So, just out of curiosity, what happens to the air
that was in the low pressure field above the wing -
after the wing passes?

Does it just magically co back to it's old ways
(and places)?

And the air that was in the high pressure field under
the wing?

After the wing passes, is it unaffected as well?


It's all a slowly descending smoke ring. If the earth was "the only
thing that finally stops it" as Alan says, none of the ring's energy
would be lost as it pushes through the surrounding air to reach the earth.

http://www.av8n.com/how/htm/airfoils.html#sec-circulation-vortices
Figure 3.27 ties the wingtip vortices in with the rest of the
circulation pattern, showing the whole smoke ring in red.

Also look up at section Section 3.11,
http://www.av8n.com/how/htm/airfoils.html#sec-spinners
Add the Fluttering Card circulation, Figure 3.25, to familiar tip
vortices, and you get the whole ring.

Other articles do a nice job explaining tip vortices or downwash behind
the wing as isolated subjects, but that's where they end their stories.



I've seen the results first hand.

Flying along just above a smooth cloud surface at high subsonic,
the "wake" behind the leader makes a shallow trough in the cloud,
then the edges swirl back up into the tip vortices.

The high pressure air underneath rebounds up, and the low pressure
field above the wing rebounds back down.

Net result = zero.


Sorry, but wrong.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
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