Reflections on a year of aircraft ownership

a wrote:
...what did you figure to be the break
even point between renting and owning something like a C150? My
'indifference point" many years ago (my language for the level of
usage where renting v owning were equal pains in the butt) was about
125 hours a year for a complex single.

The FBO owner mentioned he'd sold his C150 years ago - the customers
were getting too heavy to hold gross with decent fuel, he said.
For my biennial review, it was $150 for a one hour checkout with a
172 and instructor. That was way too much for my taste. But its
strange how $150 seems like nothing when putting another loran in or
whatever, if it's your own plane. There is just no comparison for me. I
expect to do 40 hours a year on up in it....

Brian W

brian whatcott wrote:
a wrote:
...what did you figure to be the break
even point between renting and owning something like a C150? My
'indifference point" many years ago (my language for the level of
usage where renting v owning were equal pains in the butt) was about
125 hours a year for a complex single.

The FBO owner mentioned he'd sold his C150 years ago - the customers
were getting too heavy to hold gross with decent fuel, he said.
For my biennial review, it was $150 for a one hour checkout with a
172 and instructor. That was way too much for my taste. But its
strange how $150 seems like nothing when putting another loran in or
whatever, if it's your own plane. There is just no comparison for me. I
expect to do 40 hours a year on up in it....

Brian W

When this group had all the regulars there use to be the AMU. I think it
was aeronautical money unit. It equaled $1000.00. Therefore your $150.00
was only .150 AMU. Doesn't sound so large.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
Sold
KSWI

Ross wrote:
... there use to be the AMU. I think it
was aeronautical money unit. It equaled $1000.00. Therefore your $150.00
was only .150 AMU. Doesn't sound so large.


In a sailboat context, that's 0.15 boatbuck...

Brian W

On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:40:06 -0600, brian whatcott
wrote:

In powerboat context..

"BOAT" means.

"Bring On Another Thousand"

I know this, and..

I also know what an "AMU" is...



Dave



Ross wrote:
... there use to be the AMU. I think it
was aeronautical money unit. It equaled $1000.00. Therefore your $150.00
was only .150 AMU. Doesn't sound so large.


In a sailboat context, that's 0.15 boatbuck...

Brian W

Dave wrote:
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:40:06 -0600, brian whatcott
wrote:

In powerboat context..

"BOAT" means.

"Bring On Another Thousand"

I know this, and..

I also know what an "AMU" is...



Dave



Ross wrote:
... there use to be the AMU. I think it
was aeronautical money unit. It equaled $1000.00. Therefore your $150.00
was only .150 AMU. Doesn't sound so large.

In a sailboat context, that's 0.15 boatbuck...

Brian W


But with a boat you do not need an A&P/IA to sign off your work. I had a
21' Chriscraft for several years and did all the work myself.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
Sold
KSWI

brian whatcott wrote:
Ross wrote:
... there use to be the AMU. I think it
was aeronautical money unit. It equaled $1000.00. Therefore your
$150.00 was only .150 AMU. Doesn't sound so large.


In a sailboat context, that's 0.15 boatbuck...

Brian W

What kind of sailboat do you own?

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
Sold
KSWI

On Dec 9, 12:45*pm, Ross wrote:
brian whatcott wrote:
Ross wrote:
... *there use to be the AMU. I think it
was aeronautical money unit. It equaled $1000.00. Therefore your
$150.00 was only .150 AMU. Doesn't sound so large.

In a sailboat context, that's 0.15 boatbuck...

Brian W

What kind of sailboat do you own?

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
Sold
KSWI

The O'Day sloop (25 foot swing keel) was simply not expensive -- the
biggest annual cost was a pier side docking, and that was a bit over
$1000. "Flight" planning for 5 knots took a different mindset though.

a wrote:
On Dec 9, 12:45 pm, Ross wrote:
brian whatcott wrote:
Ross wrote:
... there use to be the AMU. I think it
was aeronautical money unit. It equaled $1000.00. Therefore your
$150.00 was only .150 AMU. Doesn't sound so large.
In a sailboat context, that's 0.15 boatbuck...
Brian W
What kind of sailboat do you own?

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
Sold
KSWI

The O'Day sloop (25 foot swing keel) was simply not expensive -- the
biggest annual cost was a pier side docking, and that was a bit over
$1000. "Flight" planning for 5 knots took a different mindset though.

I used to have a 21 foot Chriscraft power boat. My aircraft (to keep
aviation content) mechanic has the building rights to the Valiant
Yachts. http://cedarmills.com/valiant.htm Check out his airstrip also.
Nice gathering place for all of us.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
Sold
KSWI

Ross wrote:
brian whatcott wrote:
Ross wrote:
... there use to be the AMU. I think it
was aeronautical money unit. It equaled $1000.00. Therefore your
$150.00 was only .150 AMU. Doesn't sound so large.


In a sailboat context, that's 0.15 boatbuck...

Brian W

What kind of sailboat do you own?


A SouthCoast 22. That's a swing keel. I keep it at the house. But it
wants three people for anxiety-free mast raising, and that's a problem.

My younger son has a better way. He recently rented a lake-front place
with a personal mooring out front for his Hunter 25 - and space for a
trailer too....

Brian W

On Dec 10, 8:09*am, brian whatcott wrote:
Ross wrote:
brian whatcott wrote:
Ross wrote:
... *there use to be the AMU. I think it
was aeronautical money unit. It equaled $1000.00. Therefore your
$150.00 was only .150 AMU. Doesn't sound so large.

In a sailboat context, that's 0.15 boatbuck...

Brian W

What kind of sailboat do you own?

A SouthCoast 22. That's a swing keel. I keep it at the house. But it
wants three people for anxiety-free mast raising, and that's a problem.

My younger son has a better way. He recently rented a lake-front place
with a personal mooring out front for his Hunter 25 - and space for a
trailer too....

Brian W

Brian, for what it's worth, I could 'walk' the mast up on the O'Day 25
with the side and aft standing rigging in place. It was designed to
pivot at its socket. I'd run a line near the top with a quick release
knot and have my wife cleat it to the anchor cleat on the bow when
it's upright. then I could attach the forestay and yank on the free
end of the line to release it. The boom goes on after all of that. It
may be your mast is a lot heavier or it didn't pivot into its socket.

I would not want to go through that every time we went sailing, but
the boat once rigged stayed that way all season. It did not trailer
well, I wish it did.