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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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Hmmmmm.... Can an American civilian ever be arrested by the military?


Yes, on a military installation.

Not usually. Normally held for civil authorities.

Tex

"Tex Houston" wrote in message
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Not usually. Normally held for civil authorities.


In other words, you concur with my statement.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 05:06:05 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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"Tex Houston" wrote in message
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Not usually. Normally held for civil authorities.


In other words, you concur with my statement.

No he does not.

'Arrest' is a precise legal term. Military Police do not have arrest
authority over civilians.


"It's not American foreign policy, or the plight of the
Palestinians, or America's longstanding support for Israel.
A group of people with money and weaponry have simply
decided that we, as a civilization, are unfit to live, and
want, eventally, to exterminate us."
'Christian Century' magazine

"Colin Campbell" (remove underscore) wrote in
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No he does not.


He indicated that he does.



'Arrest' is a precise legal term. Military Police do not have arrest
authority over civilians.


"Arrest" is a term used in everyday language. One meaning is "to seize and
hold under the authority of law." If you don't think military police have
the power to seize and hold civilians on a military installation then you
know nothing of military police.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 04:07:53 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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'Arrest' is a precise legal term. Military Police do not have arrest
authority over civilians.


"Arrest" is a term used in everyday language. One meaning is "to seize and
hold under the authority of law." If you don't think military police have
the power to seize and hold civilians on a military installation then you
know nothing of military police.

And I am using 'arrest' in the manner I have been trained to use it.

As I stated 'arrest' is a specific legal status. I am not using the
'everyday' term because doing so give the impression that the military
has law enforcement powers over civilians.


"It's not American foreign policy, or the plight of the
Palestinians, or America's longstanding support for Israel.
A group of people with money and weaponry have simply
decided that we, as a civilization, are unfit to live, and
want, eventally, to exterminate us."
'Christian Century' magazine

"Colin Campbell" (remove underscore) wrote in
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 04:07:53 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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'Arrest' is a precise legal term. Military Police do not have arrest
authority over civilians.


"Arrest" is a term used in everyday language. One meaning is "to seize
and
hold under the authority of law." If you don't think military police
have
the power to seize and hold civilians on a military installation then you
know nothing of military police.

And I am using 'arrest' in the manner I have been trained to use it.

Sure and the military told you what they wanted you to believe.

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"Colin Campbell" (remove underscore) wrote
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 04:07:53 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:


'Arrest' is a precise legal term. Military Police do not have arrest
authority over civilians.


"Arrest" is a term used in everyday language. One meaning is "to seize
and
hold under the authority of law." If you don't think military police
have
the power to seize and hold civilians on a military installation then
you
know nothing of military police.

And I am using 'arrest' in the manner I have been trained to use it.

Sure and the military told you what they wanted you to believe.

Colin is blowing smoke. The Military can "Arrest" Civilians. They cannot
aprehend them. To arrest is to detain or to cease movement. With a
Civilian, that person may be detained until the appropriate authority
arrives. Usually a Federal Marshal or Federal Magistrate who can give the
Military the aprehension powers by the Magistrates authority.

Arrest gets mixed up with Apprehend. Throw out the Civilian meanings.
Apprehend is to take into custody. You may hear the Cowboys say, "You are
under arrest" in the Military but those that do it for a living will say,
"You are under apprehension". That usually means that there is some kind of
legal action going to be sought by some agency in the Military whether it's
a Court Marshal or an investigation that may or may not clear you. But you
are Aprehended.

An Arrest may become an Apprehension depending.

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 04:07:53 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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"Arrest" is a term used in everyday language. One meaning is "to seize and
hold under the authority of law."

This is a problem when one tries to generalize from "everyday
language" into the arcane and precise use of language in law.

"Arrest" has a very precise meaning in the legal sense. That is what
was under discussion. You've obviously never had a JAG briefing.
That's OK. Just realize that you are using words in an "everyday"
context, which is OUT of the context which the service members on the
list were using them.