F-32 vs F-35

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What few? You said Israel--nonstarter since they could not even pony
up
the
fee for joining the F-35 program,


Stop spreading lies.
Israel paid the fee, joined the program and Israeli companies already
won contracts. For example, Elbit will make the JSF's helmets.

Nice try. Israel wanted in as a level one thru three participant--it did not
make it. So it settled for the bottom tier (Security Cooperation
Participant). Bottom of the heap; not a "development partner" (of which
group Australia was the last nation allowed to join). And you really need to
be more timely with your curveball attampts.

www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRTypen/FRF-35.htm

Brooks

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You said: "could not even pony up the fee for joining the F-35
program", but it did.

I never talked about the level of participation. According to the
newspapers in Israel (I'm not, and I probably can't find reference to
the Hebrew articles) - from the start it was important to the
government to ensure the participation of Israeli companies at the
lowest possible fee, and so they did after a negotiation period.

Sorry for "my timing". I don't have the time to regulary follow this
ng.

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What few? You said Israel--nonstarter since they could not even
pony
up
the
fee for joining the F-35 program,


Stop spreading lies.
Israel paid the fee, joined the program and Israeli companies already
won contracts. For example, Elbit will make the JSF's helmets.

Nice try. Israel wanted in as a level one thru three participant--it did
not
make it. So it settled for the bottom tier (Security Cooperation
Participant). Bottom of the heap; not a "development partner" (of which
group Australia was the last nation allowed to join). And you really
need to
be more timely with your curveball attampts.

www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRTypen/FRF-35.htm

Brooks

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You said: "could not even pony up the fee for joining the F-35
program", but it did.

I never talked about the level of participation. According to the
newspapers in Israel (I'm not, and I probably can't find reference to
the Hebrew articles) - from the start it was important to the
government to ensure the participation of Israeli companies at the
lowest possible fee, and so they did after a negotiation period.

Your ignorance of, or simple ignoring of, facts seems to help your argument.
Israel wanted into the program as a *development partner* but could
not/would not pony up the money required--this was the source of some
consternation with Israel as the window for nations to join that effort came
to a close, with Israeli officials trying to get onboard without paying the
same fees that other nations were required to pay. The "Security Cooperation
Participant" category was then created so that Israel, and Singapore IIRC,
could get their bids in on receiving at least some kind of priority (after
the development partners) towards later purchase of the F-35 and getting
some subcontractor work. What Israel did NOT get was its desired development
partner status, where it could influence the design/development process, at
no cost (or reduced cost) to Israel. For once, thank goodness, the US
treated Israel *fairly* in comparison to other nations and did not give it
special consideration (hooray!).

Brooks


Sorry for "my timing". I don't have the time to regulary follow this
ng.