KJZI (Charleston Executive, S.C.) ILS RWY 9 DME Required

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On Mar 12, 9:41 am, Robert Moore wrote:

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It's pretty clear that we're not supposed to go below the published MDA on
a non-precision approach, unless we can see enough to descend and land. The
MAP has nothing to do with it except that we can't continue the approach to
land after reaching the MAP.


Bob,

Bear with me on this. Are you suggesting or saying it's ok to go
below MDA BEFORE the MAP????

I was taught NEVER to descend below DH for the ILS or MDA before the
MAP for non precision approaches such as VOR alpha or LOC.

And, where there is no DME?

http://www.naco.faa.gov/d-tpp/1003/05105VA.PDF

My point to Sam was that timing alone with wind consideration is not
enough to descend below MDA which again I was taught never descend
below BEFORE the MAP.

You were poorly trained, at least as to MAPs based on timing.

DME is the constant factor to finding MAP on this approach, not timing
since there are no intersecting radials to identify MAP.

If DME were mandatory for the MAP then there would not be a timing table.

Timing helps but since GS will vary based on wind conditions, timing
ALONE shouldn't be used to determine MAP.

This is what I was taught for what it's worth.

Not worth much, sadly.

On Mar 12, 1:42*pm, Sam Spade wrote:

This is what I was taught for what it's worth.

Not worth much, sadly.

Sadly to you but worthy enough for me. I haven't hit anything below
me by being taught to err on the side of being higher have I?

I still get in on minimums with my method, so call what you want Sam,
but real world works for me. And altitude is my friend in the full
scheme of things.

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On Mar 12, 1:42 pm, Sam Spade wrote:


This is what I was taught for what it's worth.

Not worth much, sadly.


Sadly to you but worthy enough for me. I haven't hit anything below
me by being taught to err on the side of being higher have I?

I still get in on minimums with my method, so call what you want Sam,
but real world works for me. And altitude is my friend in the full
scheme of things.


You're right. I have trouble relating to hobby pilots who get
instrument ratings yet don't want to learn all the rules. Hobby flying
is fine until it gets to instrument flying.

Then again, I flew for a living, and my employer expected me to burn as
little fuel as possible, and arrive on time, while doing it all safey
and professionally.

On Mar 13, 9:29*am, Sam Spade wrote:
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Then again, I flew for a living, and my employer expected me to burn as
little fuel as possible, and arrive on time, while doing it all safey
and professionally.

So again I ask of you, what am I doing UNSAFE? Where in my videos do
I lack professionalism.

I even have posted my videos to get input to up the anti of my game
flying in the instrument world and been very clear about soliciting
constructive feedback. What have you provided other then to say the
videos are boring.

I am all ears for safety.