"Vanishing American Air Superiority"

Paul J. Adam wrote:
In message
, Ken
S. Tucker writes
On Mar 18, 12:36 am, "William Black"
wrote:
Aren't we forgetting someone?
This being a naval group and all...

The RN was pretty much useless, recall Pearl Harbor,

Ships sunk in port on a Sunday. Relates to ships at night, mixed in with
your invasion force, how?
suppose the
Nazi's
float a bunch of cheap boats, the RN responds and the Luftwaff
would've put
a lot of iron in the channel.

At night?

The Luftwaffe was pretty poor at sinking ships in 1940. They got four of
forty destroyers at Dunkirk over days, when they were stopped to take on
troops: here they have to sink forty destroyers very fast, at night,
while they're making thirty knots.

Curiously, the RN kept attacking the invasion ports, and the Luftwaffe
couldn't stop them.

Barges are ultra cheap, especially when they're empty.

Yet the Germans didn't have enough, even before they started losing them
to bombing and shelling.

Oh yes, and assuming they do land. How on earth do they get over the
Military Canal in a night?

40 miles = 8 x 5, how long is a night?
(please don't tell me I need to prove math).

So, what, they're swimming? No armour, no artillery, no vehicles, no
supplies beyond what they can swim across with?

Going to make the rest of their invasion of Britain interesting...

Bottom line is that the Germans would have figured a very effective way
if that had been their goal. Face it.. You people started 2 wars against
Germany, which if we had not interfered would have kicked your asses
bloody. For Christs sake, learn your lesson and don't start any more
damned wars. Same goes for us.

Alexander wrote:
snip


Face it.. You people started 2 wars against
Germany, which if we had not interfered would have kicked your asses
bloody. For Christs sake, learn your lesson and don't start any more
damned wars. Same goes for us.


Read a history book. Germany invaded her neighbours unprovoked at the
start of both world wars. Noting your bias against the UK and Israel I'm
sure you will find a way to blame those 2 countries anyway.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Dan wrote:
Alexander wrote:
snip


Face it.. You people started 2 wars against
Germany, which if we had not interfered would have kicked your asses
bloody. For Christs sake, learn your lesson and don't start any more
damned wars. Same goes for us.


Read a history book. Germany invaded her neighbours unprovoked at the
start of both world wars.

Bull****. Provocation was there and it would have ended very quietly,
except for the English perfidy. Damned limeys were forever tinkering in
the business of others. No one in America wanted any part of that war.
The Idiot Wilson decided he needed some imperialism to beat Teddy
Roosevelt in the upcoming 1917 election. Even Teddy thought it was a
stupid move. It was.

Noting your bias against the UK and Israel I'm
sure you will find a way to blame those 2 countries anyway.

I lay blame where blame is due. Obviously you neglected your oxygen a
few too many times. Our business is America. Do try and remember that.
Even the US Airforce's business is America. By the way...Some of
Englands loudest critics are the English themselves. There is no true UK
anymore. Israel just told America to go **** itself. They did the same
to President Eisenhower. We do not have any need to keep destroying our
economy for the Zionist Ashkenazi Jews of Israel.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

I can see why!

Alexander wrote:
Dan wrote:
Alexander wrote:
snip


Face it.. You people started 2 wars against
Germany, which if we had not interfered would have kicked your asses
bloody. For Christs sake, learn your lesson and don't start any more
damned wars. Same goes for us.


Read a history book. Germany invaded her neighbours unprovoked at
the start of both world wars.

Bull****. Provocation was there and it would have ended very quietly,
except for the English perfidy. Damned limeys were forever tinkering in
the business of others.

The "limeys" didn't invade Poland, Russia and France in WW2 nor did
they invade Russia or France in WW1. There might have been a lot of
bluster all around prior to both wars, but Germany started shooting first.

No one in America wanted any part of that war.

Not true.

The Idiot Wilson decided he needed some imperialism to beat Teddy
Roosevelt in the upcoming 1917 election.

So, Zimmeran's telegram and the ongoing sinking of commerce had no
influence on Wilson's request for a declaration of war? Under the
Constitution only Congress can issue a declaration of war.

Even Teddy thought it was a
stupid move. It was.

Noting your bias against the UK and Israel I'm
sure you will find a way to blame those 2 countries anyway.

I lay blame where blame is due. Obviously you neglected your oxygen a
few too many times. Our business is America. Do try and remember that.
Even the US Airforce's business is America. By the way...Some of
Englands loudest critics are the English themselves. There is no true UK
anymore. Israel just told America to go **** itself. They did the same
to President Eisenhower. We do not have any need to keep destroying our
economy for the Zionist Ashkenazi Jews of Israel.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

I can see why!

No, you can't see why. It's simple, I did 20+ years.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Dan wrote:
Alexander wrote:
Dan wrote:
Alexander wrote:
snip


Face it.. You people started 2 wars against
Germany, which if we had not interfered would have kicked your asses
bloody. For Christs sake, learn your lesson and don't start any more
damned wars. Same goes for us.


Read a history book. Germany invaded her neighbours unprovoked at
the start of both world wars.

Bull****. Provocation was there and it would have ended very quietly,
except for the English perfidy. Damned limeys were forever tinkering
in the business of others.

The "limeys" didn't invade Poland, Russia and France in WW2 nor did
they invade Russia or France in WW1. There might have been a lot of
bluster all around prior to both wars, but Germany started shooting first.

So you think its wrong to shoot the SOB that threatens your security?
Ding dong! Ding Dong!

No one in America wanted any part of that war.

Not true.

The Idiot Wilson decided he needed some imperialism to beat Teddy
Roosevelt in the upcoming 1917 election.

So, Zimmeran's telegram and the ongoing sinking of commerce had no
influence on Wilson's request for a declaration of war? Under the
Constitution only Congress can issue a declaration of war.

Even Teddy thought it was a
stupid move. It was.

Noting your bias against the UK and Israel I'm
sure you will find a way to blame those 2 countries anyway.

I lay blame where blame is due. Obviously you neglected your oxygen a
few too many times. Our business is America. Do try and remember that.
Even the US Airforce's business is America. By the way...Some of
Englands loudest critics are the English themselves. There is no true
UK anymore. Israel just told America to go **** itself. They did the
same to President Eisenhower. We do not have any need to keep
destroying our economy for the Zionist Ashkenazi Jews of Israel.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

I can see why!

No, you can't see why. It's simple, I did 20+ years.

Lots of 20 year dead wood there.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

You are full of ****. Poland was encouraged to stick Hitler in the ass
by The Brits. The Brits Guaranteed Poland protection as did France.
The Danzig corridor was a real sore point. Poland threatened to invade
Germany on several occasions.

Alexander wrote:
Dan wrote:
Alexander wrote:
Dan wrote:
Alexander wrote:
snip


Face it.. You people started 2 wars against
Germany, which if we had not interfered would have kicked your
asses bloody. For Christs sake, learn your lesson and don't start
any more damned wars. Same goes for us.


Read a history book. Germany invaded her neighbours unprovoked at
the start of both world wars.

Bull****. Provocation was there and it would have ended very quietly,
except for the English perfidy. Damned limeys were forever tinkering
in the business of others.

The "limeys" didn't invade Poland, Russia and France in WW2 nor did
they invade Russia or France in WW1. There might have been a lot of
bluster all around prior to both wars, but Germany started shooting
first.

So you think its wrong to shoot the SOB that threatens your security?
Ding dong! Ding Dong!

Invading France,Belgium, The Netherlands, Czechoslovakia, Russia or
Poland had exactly what to do with Britain? In another part of this
thread you tell us Britain wasn't much of a threat to Germany now you
tell us she was a big enough threat to justify Germany starting wars.


No one in America wanted any part of that war.

Not true.

The Idiot Wilson decided he needed some imperialism to beat Teddy
Roosevelt in the upcoming 1917 election.

So, Zimmeran's telegram and the ongoing sinking of commerce had no
influence on Wilson's request for a declaration of war? Under the
Constitution only Congress can issue a declaration of war.

Even Teddy thought it was a
stupid move. It was.

Noting your bias against the UK and Israel I'm
sure you will find a way to blame those 2 countries anyway.

I lay blame where blame is due. Obviously you neglected your oxygen a
few too many times. Our business is America. Do try and remember that.
Even the US Airforce's business is America. By the way...Some of
Englands loudest critics are the English themselves. There is no true
UK anymore. Israel just told America to go **** itself. They did the
same to President Eisenhower. We do not have any need to keep
destroying our economy for the Zionist Ashkenazi Jews of Israel.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

I can see why!

No, you can't see why. It's simple, I did 20+ years.

Lots of 20 year dead wood there.

Prove it. On any event, at least I served, what have you done?


Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

You are full of ****. Poland was encouraged to stick Hitler in the ass
by The Brits. The Brits Guaranteed Poland protection as did France.
The Danzig corridor was a real sore point. Poland threatened to invade
Germany on several occasions.

Prove there ever was a Polish threat, not invented by the Nazis, to
invade Germany. Danzig wouldn't have been a problem had Germany not
started WW1 and lost fair and square.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

In message , Alexander
writes
Paul J. Adam wrote:
So, what, they're swimming? No armour, no artillery, no vehicles, no
supplies beyond what they can swim across with?
Going to make the rest of their invasion of Britain interesting...

Bottom line is that the Germans would have figured a very effective way
if that had been their goal.

The way they figured out a very effective way to take North Africa?
Moscow? Stalingrad?

And presumably the Germans must have made "having their country overrun
and Berlin seized by the Soviets" a goal, since they achieved that so
successfully?

Curious definition of "effective", mind you...

--
He thinks too much, such men are dangerous.

Paul J. Adam