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Old March 19th 10, 09:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Dan[_12_]
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Ken S. Tucker wrote:
My response is also directed to Mr. Kambic's reply,
concerning logistics.

On Mar 19, 8:59 am, Chris wrote:
On Mar 19, 12:49 am, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:

An army of 100,000 could easily turn out 1000 barges a day!
Low skill labor, I could organize that.

Man, Ken, you are really unlucky. If you had been born in the 1760's
you would have been a *superstar.* You see, in the 1790's and 1800's
there were a lot of people trying to build lots blue water hulls for
some big wars they had going on at the time. They thought, because of
their hundreds of years of accumulated experience and lifetimes spent
actually building ships, that it required a great deal of time,
specialized materials and highly skilled labor demanding large wages.
If only you had been there with your experience gained doing something
completely different as a hobby, you could have shown them the errors
of their ways. Any navy would have been thrilled with your ability to
produce a sloop or frigate type hull with a hundred unskilled workers
in a single day.
Chris Manteuffel


The Vikings were building sea worthy boats in 900AD,


Using a labour intesive design not lending itself to outboard motors.

(I've designed and built boats and helped others do that),


Sure you have.

I think Germans could build a landing craft to cross the
ditch, I assigned 1000 man hours to build one, if ya can't
get that done, you deserve to lose the war, (oh yeah).
A 1000 barges a day (on average) covers logistics.
Ceasar and Normy had no problem in 0AD, then 1066AD,
if ya wanna toss dates, (cutie pie).

Different type of war, different circumstances etc. There wasn't a
unified UK, no fire arms, electronic communications, air capability...etc.


Beach head is a problem, but German 88's could seriously
impair a Brit counter-attack,


How big is an 88? How do you get it across the Channel, in one of
your barges? Do you fire it while still in the barge? How do you get it
off the barge and onto solid land? Do you ask the Brits to take a tea
break while you do it?

and once the Nazi's get a farmers
field to do Me-109's, with air support from France, well things
would get hairy,
A few dozen farmers fields loading up with Me-109's, Stuka's.


No fuel or munitions, furrowed fields....etc.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old March 19th 10, 09:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Paul J. Adam[_3_]
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In message , Dan
writes
Ken S. Tucker wrote:
A few dozen farmers fields loading up with Me-109's, Stuka's.


No fuel or munitions, furrowed fields....etc.


He's going to harvest the fabled ammunition trees of Kent.

--
He thinks too much, such men are dangerous.

Paul J. Adam
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Old March 19th 10, 11:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Dan[_12_]
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Paul J. Adam wrote:
In message , Dan
writes
Ken S. Tucker wrote:
A few dozen farmers fields loading up with Me-109's, Stuka's.


No fuel or munitions, furrowed fields....etc.


He's going to harvest the fabled ammunition trees of Kent.



I thought those were still most secret. I sure hope no one mentions
the av gas and diesel fountains in every shire.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old March 20th 10, 03:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
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Dan wrote:
Paul J. Adam wrote:
In message , Dan
writes
Ken S. Tucker wrote:
A few dozen farmers fields loading up with Me-109's, Stuka's.

No fuel or munitions, furrowed fields....etc.


He's going to harvest the fabled ammunition trees of Kent.



I thought those were still most secret. I sure hope no one mentions
the av gas and diesel fountains in every shire.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


Particularly the under water gas fountains. They were designed to
give visiting infantry a warm reception. Too warm.

Andrew Swallow
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Old March 20th 10, 04:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Dan[_12_]
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Andrew Swallow wrote:
Dan wrote:
Paul J. Adam wrote:
In message , Dan
writes
Ken S. Tucker wrote:
A few dozen farmers fields loading up with Me-109's, Stuka's.

No fuel or munitions, furrowed fields....etc.

He's going to harvest the fabled ammunition trees of Kent.



I thought those were still most secret. I sure hope no one mentions
the av gas and diesel fountains in every shire.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


Particularly the under water gas fountains. They were designed to
give visiting infantry a warm reception. Too warm.

Andrew Swallow


So much for the Official Secrecies Act.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old March 20th 10, 05:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Andrew Swallow
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Dan wrote:
Andrew Swallow wrote:
Dan wrote:
Paul J. Adam wrote:
In message , Dan
writes
Ken S. Tucker wrote:
A few dozen farmers fields loading up with Me-109's, Stuka's.

No fuel or munitions, furrowed fields....etc.

He's going to harvest the fabled ammunition trees of Kent.



I thought those were still most secret. I sure hope no one
mentions the av gas and diesel fountains in every shire.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


Particularly the under water gas fountains. They were designed to
give visiting infantry a warm reception. Too warm.

Andrew Swallow


So much for the Official Secrecies Act.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


No longer secret.

Andrew Swallow
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Old March 20th 10, 06:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Dan[_12_]
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Andrew Swallow wrote:
Dan wrote:
Andrew Swallow wrote:
Dan wrote:
Paul J. Adam wrote:
In message , Dan
writes
Ken S. Tucker wrote:
A few dozen farmers fields loading up with Me-109's, Stuka's.

No fuel or munitions, furrowed fields....etc.

He's going to harvest the fabled ammunition trees of Kent.



I thought those were still most secret. I sure hope no one
mentions the av gas and diesel fountains in every shire.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Particularly the under water gas fountains. They were designed to
give visiting infantry a warm reception. Too warm.

Andrew Swallow


So much for the Official Secrecies Act.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired


No longer secret.

Andrew Swallow


Well, not anymore.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old March 20th 10, 10:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.military,sci.military.naval,rec.aviation.military.naval
Peter Skelton
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On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:54:19 +0000, "Paul J. Adam"
wrote:

In message , Dan
writes
Ken S. Tucker wrote:
A few dozen farmers fields loading up with Me-109's, Stuka's.


No fuel or munitions, furrowed fields....etc.


He's going to harvest the fabled ammunition trees of Kent.


But wasn't that the era of the horrible mks blight? It took years
to graft more onto fps rootstock and bring them to production.

Peter Skelton
 




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