barnyard, its on your head....

On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:38:41 +0200, Tom De Moor
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I want it as my across australia transit machine. the performance it
gets out of an O-235 means that I can fly from one side of australia
to the other side in a long day's flying. I've been after a machine
with this capability for something like 10 years now.



Not wanting to spoile a party but if you have spent allready 10 years on
finding the RV-3, how many will you need building one from plans? Sadly
nobody is getting younger and very few of us get fitter in the process.


gee your post is a load of rampant pessimism.

I've been looking for a fast aeroplane for 10 years. trouble is that
most have absolutely deplorable flying characteristics.
Barnyard Bob did truely cause me to look at it just recently and I had
to agree with him. the RV3 is a little gem.

If a 1-day-Oz-transit machine is wanted, me thinks you should buy a
airline-ticket.

Van's are great, but the sheer amount of work equates to minimum 5 years
if all goes well (a plan build even longer), a major investement while
risking your mariage (when SWMBO finds out the RV-3 is single-seater).

who cares what the bloody wife thinks. I own a W8 Tailwind and in 10
years she has flown with me once.

Never imagine that because you don't count your time, the plane will be
'cheap' to make.

If you want to build, build. If you want to fly, buy.

Due to the actual economical climat good RVs go for less they cost to
make. Even a trip to the US, finding one and the aventure of getting
into Oz becomes interesting but not yearconsuming. Staggering is the
number of RVs people worked on for 5-10 years, finally get it done and
only to sell within the first 100 Hr of flight without even covering
their investement.


blah blah blah. how many people have you turned off building over the
years? must be quite a few now.
sadly your advise, the commonly held opinions of many who dont fly, is
********. I fly as a way of life. ...as a bum private pilot.
In the workshop is a J1B Auster under restoration, a Druine D31
Turbulent under construction, and I've been after a tin aeroplane to
build. The RV3 has what I'm looking for.

seriously, you want to get a life, go flying and stop the pandering of
bull**** advise. get active and get airborne.

Stealth Pilot

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:38:41 +0200, Tom De Moor
wrote:

In article ,
says...

I want it as my across australia transit machine. the performance it
gets out of an O-235 means that I can fly from one side of australia
to the other side in a long day's flying. I've been after a machine
with this capability for something like 10 years now.



Not wanting to spoile a party but if you have spent allready 10 years on
finding the RV-3, how many will you need building one from plans? Sadly
nobody is getting younger and very few of us get fitter in the process.


gee your post is a load of rampant pessimism.

Sure... and how many thousands of projects are hiding in cellars or
posted on Fleebay? Or simply sold for scrap metal?


I've been looking for a fast aeroplane for 10 years. trouble is that
most have absolutely deplorable flying characteristics.

Psst : RV3 is around a fair bit longer.

Barnyard Bob did truely cause me to look at it just recently and I had
to agree with him. the RV3 is a little gem.


As there are others: Personal Cruiser is one of the more recent.


If a 1-day-Oz-transit machine is wanted, me thinks you should buy a
airline-ticket.

Van's are great, but the sheer amount of work equates to minimum 5 years
if all goes well (a plan build even longer), a major investement while
risking your mariage (when SWMBO finds out the RV-3 is single-seater).

who cares what the bloody wife thinks. I own a W8 Tailwind and in 10
years she has flown with me once.

Never imagine that because you don't count your time, the plane will be
'cheap' to make.

If you want to build, build. If you want to fly, buy.

Due to the actual economical climat good RVs go for less they cost to
make. Even a trip to the US, finding one and the aventure of getting
into Oz becomes interesting but not yearconsuming. Staggering is the
number of RVs people worked on for 5-10 years, finally get it done and
only to sell within the first 100 Hr of flight without even covering
their investement.


blah blah blah. how many people have you turned off building over the
years? must be quite a few now.

Not quite as much as there are projects 'on hold', 'under indefinite
construction', under 'lost interest', under 'I have to move house' or
'my wife says sell'.


sadly your advise, the commonly held opinions of many who dont fly, is
********. I fly as a way of life. ...as a bum private pilot.
In the workshop is a J1B Auster under restoration, a Druine D31
Turbulent under construction, and I've been after a tin aeroplane to
build. The RV3 has what I'm looking for.

Yep, you confirm your keyword 'under construction'.

Mine is 'finished' (and quite often 'sold and paid for'), yet my
workshop has some projects left from over enthousiastic persons who
don't seem capable of understanding what '1000 Hr of work' implies.

I used to make racecars *for a living* which like airplanes have a high
glamour factor. Few understand the -very basic- economics and planning
of them. It is no other with homebuilts.



seriously, you want to get a life, go flying and stop the pandering of
bull**** advise. get active and get airborne.


With all due respect: you don't even imagine how stupid you make
yourself look.

I leave you in your beliefs as one of my rules is that you may never
stop somebody who is going to make a bitter mistake as you would so rob
them of a lesson.

But still: all the best and that you may be right.

So long.

Tom De Moor

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:01:29 +0200, Tom De Moor
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Tom I hope that someday soon you find that person who appreciates you
being their new mother. until then enjoy yourself :-)

we have people in australia who only think of finished projects and
decry all those unfinished projects in workshops. they understand so
little of the pleasure of pottering, working and having something like
an unfinished project full of hopes and dreams to look forward to.

my projects all get completed as I solve the hiccups that occasionally
stop them.

Stealth Pilot

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:01:29 +0200, Tom De Moor
wrote:

In article ,
says...


Tom I hope that someday soon you find that person who appreciates you
being their new mother. until then enjoy yourself :-)

we have people in australia who only think of finished projects and
decry all those unfinished projects in workshops. they understand so
little of the pleasure of pottering, working and having something like
an unfinished project full of hopes and dreams to look forward to.

my projects all get completed as I solve the hiccups that occasionally
stop them.

Stealth Pilot

Keep us posted when you fly the RV-3... within a few decades or when the
workshop inexplicably burns off or gets flooded.

Tom De Moor