KCHD to KMYF

On May 4, 8:26*am, Mark wrote:
On May 3, 10:30*pm, "Morgans" wrote:



"Mike Adams" wrote

Good grief, this discussion is tiresome. It started off with a reasonable
aviation related question, and a reasonable suggestion, then quickly
degenerated into a debate about trivia. Do you guys just enjoy argument
for
argument's sake? *What a waste of bandwidth.

*No discussion that involves MX is reasonable for long. *Why do you think my
advice is to never involve yourself (or anyone) with a discussion with him
for any reason. *It always ends up being much ado about nothing.

Why everyone does not understand this is beyond my comprehension. *He would
be gone if everyone followed the advice to never respond to his arguments.
--
Jim in NC

It's human nature to correct the ignorant, if indeed that
is the case. *Can a simulator enthusiast offer information
to actual pilots is the question. Ostracism should be
reserved for individuals not interested in sincere
participation. If he is that, then you are right.

---
Mark

Is deliberate ignorance really ignorance? After all these months/
years do you think that he is really interested in 'sincere'
participation? Seems to me he is always after the conflict, not
looking for any truth or conclusion. Which, by the way, is a typical
aspect of a troll.

Keep on feeding him, and falling for his baits, and you'll have to
keep on 'correcting' him when he is uncorrectable. He has no interest
of learning anything from you. He just wants to provoke you into an
argument.

From the very first post in this thread, you could tell it was bait.
He knew he would stoke the fire by answering before any real pilots.
Which is why he went out of his way to not post any of his typical
'questions', and pretended to look like he knew what he was talking
about. It wasn't until after you guys took the bait that he started
spouting the 'tell me what am I saying that is wrong' tripe,
successfully derailing the conversation.

Some people never learn it seems. Sorry.

Mike

I actually do have a question for the knowledgeable people here
though.

I'm still a newbie student pilot, so don't have a bunch of
experience. Out here in the midwest we don't have a bunch of the
restricted airspace like apparently out in the desert. Especially the
ones in question here that look like heavily clustered, and ranging
from 0 AGL to 80000 MSL. When calling the controlling agency is it
typical to be able to ask clearance into them all of them at once? Or
must it be done piecewise. Any risk of getting cleared into some of
them, then getting told the next is 'active' and having to adjust for
it? Could be problematic especially for the clustered restricted like
2306A, 2308A, 2308B, etc.

Is it typical for these clusters to have two different controlling
agencies? Probably not I hope.

Seems to someone like me not used to dealing with confusion like these
heavily clustered areas that it would be a pain to deal with.

Mike