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VOR-DME writes:

Does your toy tell you that the Citation X is not single-pilot certified?

Microsoft Flight Simulator doesn't include a Cessna Citation among its
aircraft. It's only available as an add-on (from at least two companies).

Would you knowingly initiate a flight single-pilot in an aircraft that
requires two crew?

Not in real life--that would be illegal and unsafe, as you observe. But I do
it cheerfully in simulation. I don't have much choice with the version of MSFS
I'm using. FSX allows two people to share a cockpit but I wouldn't want to do
that.

Crew coordination and CRM are what it’s all
about flying a plane like the "X" and something tells me you would not be well
versed in these skills!

Nothing tells you that. It's simply something you'd like to believe.

How many hours do you have in the Citation X, by the way?

Maybe way up in the corner of the screen you can just make
out a locked door. That’s the door that non-pilots like yourself never get to
see the other side of.

I don't think the cockpit door locks, but it might. I just leave the door
open.

Your attempts to belittle me are predicated upon some false assumptions about
my own attitudes towards aviation and simulation. As a result, you are wasting
your time engaging in them. I don't fly to bolster my own self-esteem, nor do
I see flying as doing that, in real life or in simulation. It's just a fun
activity.

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Your attempts to belittle me are predicated upon some false assumptions about
my own attitudes towards aviation and simulation. As a result, you are
wasting
your time engaging in them.


For once I fully agree with you, in that I am wasting my time.
Just to be clear with you, I did not, as you believe, criticize your initial
response simply "because it was you" and everyone wants to pick on you. Matter
of fact, I almost always avoid any temptation to respond to you, as I already
know you have no interest in genuine discussion, are only here to attempt to
belittle others of far greater merit than yourself, and turn every
conversation into vituperative drivel. Despite this knowledge, I chose to
respond as someone was writing for advice, and I felt the response you gave
was uninformed, incomplete and a disservice to the contributor who asked the
question, and who may not know that you don’t know anything of what you speak.

I am satisfied you have once again demonstrated your staggering ignorance of
"the way things work" in a very large number of posts in this thread, as well
as your wholesale intellectual dishonesty in an unending stream of
self-contradictions and passive-aggressive attacks. I am truly not interested
in the type of dead-end, semantic quagmire that discourse with you always
entails, and further it is a huge disservice to the group, to whom I offer my
apology. As stated, I only got involved this time because of the uninformed
advice you offered another, as if you knew something, and with that I am going
to take your excellent advice and stop wasting my time.

Again, to RAP, my apology. I’ll try not to let it happen again.

VOR-DME writes:

Just to be clear with you, I did not, as you believe, criticize your initial
response simply "because it was you" and everyone wants to pick on you.

Right.

Actually, most people don't want to pick on me, but those who do are unable to
control themselves.

Despite this knowledge, I chose to
respond as someone was writing for advice, and I felt the response you gave
was uninformed, incomplete and a disservice to the contributor who asked the
question, and who may not know that you don’t know anything of what you speak.

I could have given any response, and you would have taken issue with it.

I've previously cut and pasted text from undeniably reliable sources in posts
of my own to this newsgroup, just to see what happens, and invariably the
treehouse club feels obliged to take issue with them, even though I'm
repeating something word for word from another source, one before which they'd
readily genuflect had the post been under the original source's name (people
who are mean towards those whom they consider inferior also tend to be
exceedingly obsequious towards those whom they consider superior). This proved
that they were attacking the messenger, not the message, despite all their
claims to the contrary.

I am satisfied you have once again demonstrated your staggering ignorance of
"the way things work" in a very large number of posts in this thread, as well
as your wholesale intellectual dishonesty in an unending stream of
self-contradictions and passive-aggressive attacks. I am truly not interested
in the type of dead-end, semantic quagmire that discourse with you always
entails, and further it is a huge disservice to the group, to whom I offer my
apology. As stated, I only got involved this time because of the uninformed
advice you offered another, as if you knew something, and with that I am going
to take your excellent advice and stop wasting my time.

You've spent a lot of time criticizing me, and very little addressing the OP's
question, which rather belies your claim.

Again, to RAP, my apology. I’ll try not to let it happen again.

It will happen again. It always does. I know the pattern well.

Perhaps if this group were less a battle of egos among a small group of
testosterone-soaked males, and more a discussion of a love of aviation, the
noise level would be lower. But this phenomenon exists in just about every
discussion venue I've ever seen, so I'm not optimistic.

Mxsmanic wrote:
VOR-DME writes:

Does your toy tell you that the Citation X is not single-pilot certified?

Microsoft Flight Simulator doesn't include a Cessna Citation among its
aircraft. It's only available as an add-on (from at least two companies).

Would you knowingly initiate a flight single-pilot in an aircraft that
requires two crew?

Not in real life--that would be illegal and unsafe, as you observe. But I do
it cheerfully in simulation.

And yet you go on and on about how "safe" a pilot you are and how you would
never do anythin "unsafe" while playing your game.


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Jim Pennino

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And yet you go on and on about how "safe" a pilot you are and how you would
never do anythin "unsafe" while playing your game.

Single-pilot IFR is sometimes merely illegal rather than demonstrably unsafe.
And in any case, if I can fly successfully single-pilot in simulation, I can
certainly fly successfully with a copilot in real life.

Mxsmanic wrote:
writes:

And yet you go on and on about how "safe" a pilot you are and how you would
never do anythin "unsafe" while playing your game.

Single-pilot IFR is sometimes merely illegal rather than demonstrably unsafe.
And in any case, if I can fly successfully single-pilot in simulation, I can
certainly fly successfully with a copilot in real life.

Flying solo in an aircraft that requires a crew is unsafe.

Flying anything without doing complete flight planning is unsafe.

And both are illegal.

Yet you go on and on about how "safe" a pilot you are and how you would
never do anythin "unsafe" while playing your game and that your game is
just like the real thing.

You are delusional.


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Jim Pennino

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Flying solo in an aircraft that requires a crew is unsafe.

Not necessarily. If an aircraft can be flown by one person but the
manufacturer has not applied to have it certified for single-pilot flight, it
isn't unsafe, it's just illegal.

Flying anything without doing complete flight planning is unsafe.

Define "complete."

And both are illegal.

A flight plan need not be complete to be legal. Indeed, you don't have to file
anything at all for VFR in the U.S (usually). And how much planning you do is
up to you, as long as you don't seem negligent in the event of an accident.

Safety is a separate issue.

I try to simulate both, but again it depends on the circumstances and my mood.
Filling out paperwork is not a fun part of aviation for me.

Mxsmanic wrote:

A flight plan need not be complete to be legal. Indeed, you don't have to file
anything at all for VFR in the U.S (usually). And how much planning you do is
up to you, as long as you don't seem negligent in the event of an accident.

Filing a flight plan is just a small part of flight planning, and no, how
much planning you do is not up to the pilot.

But again, your babbling nonsense just proves once again you have no clue
what the term "flight planning" and "flight planner" mean.



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Jim Pennino

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