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He actually thinks that MSFS looks as real as my videos I have posted
these past few years (his words).

I am regularly surprised by how real MSFS looks, given that it's just a
desktop simulator. And I don't use the scenery add-ons that some simmers use,
except for airports.

Dunno about you but when simming, I really never did an approach
briefing and a few other steps required in a real plane in the clag
that simply is not replicated on a desktop simulator.

I have. It improves the experience. Of course, the advantage to simulation is
that you can skip this if you're not in the mood.

I stress desktop as a full motion sim is as real as it gets as you
have physical interaction based on your inputs. This is simply not
there with a joystick, keyboard and mouse as you brought you in your
King Air example..

I know from your past posts that you depend a great deal on motion; apparently
that's an important part of the flying experience for you. You even rely on it
too much for IFR, as I recall, which may lead to unpleasantness one day.

I have said the same thing you have time over time with Mx, for
learning the procedures needed to operate in the IFR environment, MSFS
will do great, and I will even go as far as say it does great when you
simulate a vacuum or some other systems failure, but when the rubber
meets the road, MSFS is just exactly what you describe it as and that
is a game.

It's unfortunate that you have this attitude. You're depriving yourself of
much enjoyment.

Do you ever go to the movies or watch sports on TV?

I have used MSFS to mentally get myself ready for an approach at an
airport I never been to so I can get the fixes stamped into my simple
mind ...

Good!

Flying the skies as we do isn't as simple as escape and start over.
Bad things happen in the skies, not MSFS. Worst thing that happens in
MSFS is you push escape and start over (or even resume from a fix
where things didn't go as you expected)

As I've said, it depends on how seriously you take your simulation. If you're
not good at taking it seriously, or if you don't want to, you learn
considerably less from it.

I asked Mx a direct question but he never answers. My lastest
question is what does he use for flight planning. If history repeats
itself, he won't answer.

I believe I said that I use NACO charts and plates and online aviation weather
reports. That's good enough for simulation--I have no legal requirement to use
specially certified sources.

Mxsmanic wrote:

I believe I said that I use NACO charts and plates and online aviation weather
reports. That's good enough for simulation--I have no legal requirement to use
specially certified sources.

No one said anything about "specially certified sources".

You've raved on and on time and again about how "safe" you are; "safer"
than real pilots.

Yet your flight planning is "good enough".

Yeah, right.


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No one said anything about "specially certified sources".

If you don't use certified sources, you could be violating the FARs.

You've raved on and on time and again about how "safe" you are; "safer"
than real pilots.

Safer than _some_ real pilots, of that I have absolutely no doubt.

Yet your flight planning is "good enough".

You match the planning to the objectives.

Mxsmanic wrote:
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No one said anything about "specially certified sources".

If you don't use certified sources, you could be violating the FARs.

Gibbering nonsense that just shows again you haven't a clue about how to
do real flight planning.

You've raved on and on time and again about how "safe" you are; "safer"
than real pilots.

Safer than _some_ real pilots, of that I have absolutely no doubt.

You've raved on and on time and again about how "safe" you are; "safer"
than real pilots who really do flight planning.

Yet your flight planning is "good enough".

You match the planning to the objectives.

If the objective is to play a game, then indeed you need not do any flight
planning.

If the objective is to really simulate flying, then you need to do the
same flight planning you would do for real flight.

So your objective is obviously to play a game.


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Gibbering nonsense that just shows again you haven't a clue about how to
do real flight planning.

If you use a map in crayon provided to you by a friend, you're not using a
certified source. If something happens on the flight, your failure to use a
certified source could be held against you by the FAA.

You've raved on and on time and again about how "safe" you are; "safer"
than real pilots who really do flight planning.

Safer than _some_ pilots who really do flight planning.

If the objective is to really simulate flying, then you need to do the
same flight planning you would do for real flight.

That depends on the part of flying that I wish to simulate. I simulate
planning to the extent that it affects safety, usually, but I don't try to
simulate any additional overhead that wouldn't be germane to that objective.

Indeed, one of the great advantages of simulation is not having to bother with
useless paperwork.

Mxsmanic wrote:
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Gibbering nonsense that just shows again you haven't a clue about how to
do real flight planning.

If you use a map in crayon provided to you by a friend, you're not using a
certified source. If something happens on the flight, your failure to use a
certified source could be held against you by the FAA.

Yet more gibberning nonsense.

You've raved on and on time and again about how "safe" you are; "safer"
than real pilots who really do flight planning.

Safer than _some_ pilots who really do flight planning.

If the objective is to really simulate flying, then you need to do the
same flight planning you would do for real flight.

That depends on the part of flying that I wish to simulate. I simulate
planning to the extent that it affects safety, usually, but I don't try to
simulate any additional overhead that wouldn't be germane to that objective.

Indeed, one of the great advantages of simulation is not having to bother with
useless paperwork.

Yet more gibberish that shows once again you have no clue what the term
"flight planning" means or why it is done.


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On May 7, 1:21*am, Mxsmanic wrote:

It's unfortunate that you have this attitude. You're depriving yourself of
much enjoyment.

How do you know what I enjoy? You don't fly a plane??????

Lets see

Choice A. sit at my desktop computer and play on MSFS
Choice B Go to the airport and fly a real plane and touch real
clouds.

Survey says......

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How do you know what I enjoy? You don't fly a plane??????

We were talking about simulators.

Choice A. sit at my desktop computer and play on MSFS
Choice B Go to the airport and fly a real plane and touch real
clouds.

Survey says......

(A) is a lot cheaper and easier than (B).