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True but irrelevant to the reality of simulators.

On the contrary, it's extremely important for simulators. Full-motion
simulators are designed specifically to profit maximally from the various
defects of human motion perception. The same defects that result in spatial
disorientation are put to work in simulators to create an extremely persuasive
illusion of real, continuous movement.

The simulator actually uses only acceleration cues and washout to persuade the
human brain that the sim cockpit is actually going somewhere. It works
extremely well.

Again, true but irrelevant to the reality of simulators.

If you can be messed up by turning in a chair with your eyes closed, you can
definitely be persuaded of just about anything with a properly-programmed
motion base reinforced by effective visuals and sound effects.

Anyone ever suffered GLOC in a real airplane?

Sure, but only in aerobatic and fighter aircraft, which are a very tiny
percentage of all the aircraft in service. Most aircraft will disintegrate
long before GLOC occurs.

Mxsmanic wrote:
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True but irrelevant to the reality of simulators.

On the contrary, it's extremely important for simulators. Full-motion
simulators are designed specifically to profit maximally from the various
defects of human motion perception. The same defects that result in spatial
disorientation are put to work in simulators to create an extremely persuasive
illusion of real, continuous movement.

The simulator actually uses only acceleration cues and washout to persuade the
human brain that the sim cockpit is actually going somewhere. It works
extremely well.

Again, true but irrelevant to the reality of simulators.

If you can be messed up by turning in a chair with your eyes closed, you can
definitely be persuaded of just about anything with a properly-programmed
motion base reinforced by effective visuals and sound effects.

Yet the most advanced and costly simulators still do not 100% simulate the
reality of flight, something that in your delusions you will never understand.

Granted 100% simulation is not required for all situations such as
teaching procedures, but I highly doubt you will ever find anyone that has
actually flown an aircraft that will agree that all flight training can
be done in a simulator like you seem to believe.

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Jim Pennino

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...but I highly doubt you will ever find anyone that has
actually flown an aircraft that will agree that all flight training can
be done in a simulator like you seem to believe.


The FAA grants approval to some simulators used to lift CPL-IRs to their
first passenger-carrying duties as ATPLs for passenger jets - that's the
economic reality.

Brian W

brian whatcott wrote:
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...but I highly doubt you will ever find anyone that has
actually flown an aircraft that will agree that all flight training can
be done in a simulator like you seem to believe.


The FAA grants approval to some simulators used to lift CPL-IRs to their
first passenger-carrying duties as ATPLs for passenger jets - that's the
economic reality.

Brian W

Yeah, but what part of "all flight training" did you miss?


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Jim Pennino

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