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Old May 16th 10, 01:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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VOR-DME writes:

I am dubitative of the pertinence of one’s expertise in simulation having
never experienced the genuine activity being simulated. However, we’ve
explored the possibility that mitigating factors, be they medical, pecuniary
or other could make this the only real option. This is fine, however to
profess any sort of expertise in the matter this shortfall would have to be
compensated by an even greater study of the subject. This does not appear to
be the case with MX.


My posts are too few on USENET to make any assessment possible. I've been
interested in aviation and have studied it since childhood, and I recall
reading my first ground-school textbook at the age of around six (it belonged
to my father).

This statement is an open gate to a vast sea of ignorance. The topic of
transfer of experience from simulation to real flight, the role of _realism_
and its subset of components (visual, motion, audio, cockpit resource
management, I could go on and on) are the subject of a large number of
published scholarly works and an even greater number of doctoral theses. All
of this ongoing study is tacitly predicated on the assumption that the above
statement is impertinent at best, and probably patently false.


The role of simulation in training and research continues to increase. If it
were not realistic, this would not be the case.

Some pilots have a great deal of their self-esteem invested in their pilot
licenses. These pilots tend to reject simulation summarily because it dilutes
the prestige they imagine to be associated with their licensing and thus dents
their egos. Not all pilots have this type of mental block against simulation,
however, and those who do not may enjoy simulation greatly (albeit not as much
as flying in a real airplane). Most pilots cannot afford to fly a real
airplane during all of their waking hours, so those who reject simulation are
denying themselves considerable aviation-related enjoyment.

Another statement that reveals a very shallow depth of inquiry and a
superficial understanding of simulation, aside the fact that it is simply
untrue.


Some people adapt better than others.

I note that those who refuse to take simulation seriously never enjoy it,
whereas those who do take it seriously find it great fun and sometimes useful
in practical ways that apply to their flights in real aircraft.

There is a serious side to simulation though, and is clear that MX is not well
versed in the subject.


How so?
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Old May 16th 10, 05:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Mxsmanic wrote:

The role of simulation in training and research continues to increase. If it
were not realistic, this would not be the case.


Bull****.

While realism in training using simulation is desirable, simulation is used
because it is either cheaper than the real thing or too dangerous to do the
real thing.

You are delusional.


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Old May 18th 10, 07:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 16, 5:41*am, Mxsmanic wrote:

Some pilots have a great deal of their self-esteem invested in their pilot
licenses. These pilots tend to reject simulation summarily because it dilutes
the prestige


Actually, like I said, I teach in both simulators AND in airplanes,
and you're full of ****.

Not all pilots have this type of mental block against simulation, however, and those who do not may enjoy simulation greatly


Exactly, but that doesn't make you any less full of ****.

Most pilots cannot afford to fly a real airplane during all of their waking hours,


I get paid to fly airplanes but you're still full of ****.

I note that those who refuse to take simulation seriously never enjoy it,
whereas those who do take it seriously find it great fun


Actually people who take simulation seriously sweat profusely.
Occasionally they become "airsick" which is why there's a barf bag
within arm's reach. One time, a guy took it so seriously he freaked
out and yanked the throttle control right out of the simulator
cockpit.

There is a serious side to simulation though, and is clear that MX is not well versed in the subject. *


How so?


Go hop in a Cessna or a Piper and learn for yourself. Until then, you
remain full of ****.

-c
CFI/CP-ASEL-IA
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Old May 18th 10, 09:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Alpha Propellerhead writes:

Actually people who take simulation seriously sweat profusely.
Occasionally they become "airsick" which is why there's a barf bag
within arm's reach. One time, a guy took it so seriously he freaked
out and yanked the throttle control right out of the simulator
cockpit.


These would be unusual reactions to normal flight regimes.
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Old May 19th 10, 06:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 18, 1:20*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Alpha Propellerhead writes:
Actually people who take simulation seriously sweat profusely.
Occasionally they become "airsick" which is why there's a barf bag
within arm's reach. One time, a guy took it so seriously he freaked
out and yanked the throttle control right out of the simulator
cockpit.


These would be unusual reactions to normal flight regimes.


They're not normal flight regimes, tard. We teach stalls and spin
recovery, zero-visibility, turbulence and every simulated system
failure we can think of so that REAL pilots know how to keep cool if
REAL problems happen in REAL AIRPLANES when they're REALLY flying.

That all flew right over your head, but, don't worry. I understand
perfectly. You play video games and think it equates to the real
thing even when people who play the same games AND do the real thing
tell you otherwise. You played Battlefield 1942 and you think you're
George freakin' Patton. *shrug*
 




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