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Old May 17th 10, 04:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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On May 16, 11:01*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Dudley Henriques writes:
It is unfortunate that even when you have something of value to
contribute to these endless argumentative threads involving you, your
glaringly obvious bias against pilots takes control over your comment.


I have no bias against pilots. I just know that many of them aren't nearly as
expert in aviation as they'd like to believe, especially the low-time PPLs
that seem to haunt this group (or at least seem to be the most prolific
posters).


I'm sure you see it this way, and there might even be some degree of
truth in what you're saying but after watching your posting on these
groups for a long time I unfortunately can't agree.
If, for example, you put forth in comment what you have said here in
this post about pilots as an isolated and pertinent comment and that
comment was backed up by enough experience flying to make your comment
viable, I could see that.
But you instead make these negative comments about pilots incessantly.
In fact, your negativity about pilots stands out to me and others I'm
fairly certain as a constant.
This unfortunately constitutes a bias that as I have said, weakens
what you have to say.
Anyone can put forth a generalization such as "there are pilots who
aren't as expert in aviation as they'd like to believe". Of course
there are, as there are as well pilots in aviation who are a great
deal MORE expert in aviation than they like to convey to others.
AS a simulator user, you are of course entitled to an opinion of
pilots as is anyone else for that matter. You state a negative
generality about pilots as you do once and it's an opinion. You do it
constantly as you do and it's a bias, and unfortunately, due to your
lack of actual aviation experience, an uneducated bias as well. You
are even entitled to an uneducated opinion about pilots, but as I say,
you do it as often as you do and it constitutes a bias that weakens
any truth in your accompanying comment.
Dudley Henriques
  #2  
Old May 17th 10, 10:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Dudley Henriques writes:

I'm sure you see it this way, and there might even be some degree of
truth in what you're saying but after watching your posting on these
groups for a long time I unfortunately can't agree.


I'm sure you see it that way, and there might even be some degree of truth in
what you're saying, but after watching your posting on these groups for a long
time, I unfortunately cannot agree.

If, for example, you put forth in comment what you have said here in
this post about pilots as an isolated and pertinent comment and that
comment was backed up by enough experience flying to make your comment
viable, I could see that.


Maybe it's time to stop worrying about pilots and start talking about
aviation.

But you instead make these negative comments about pilots incessantly.


I see self-proclaimed pilots making negative comments about me all the time;
you don't seem too worried about that.

And I don't make negative comments about pilots in general, although I do make
unflattering observations about some of the losers who continually whine in
these aviation groups.

Anyone can put forth a generalization such as "there are pilots who
aren't as expert in aviation as they'd like to believe". Of course
there are, as there are as well pilots in aviation who are a great
deal MORE expert in aviation than they like to convey to others.


It seems that the ones who are less proficient tend to talk a lot louder and
longer than the ones who are more proficient. Unfortunately for them, I'm not
impressed or swayed by loud, long talkers.

I verify everything people tell me here. If other sources back up a poster, I
add points to his reputation in my book. If he's way off the mark, I scratch
him off the list. A lot of people here are consistently off the mark. They are
far more interested in shouting me down than in actually looking things up to
make sure they are right. But that's the way it usually goes in cyberspace.
It's always the low end of the curve that makes the most noise.

You seem a bit on the irritable side yourself. You get upset if people
disagree with you, although you are civil otherwise. Maybe you need to work on
anger management. I never get upset.
  #3  
Old May 17th 10, 01:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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On May 17, 5:35*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Dudley Henriques writes:
I'm sure you see it this way, and there might even be some degree of
truth in what you're saying but after watching your posting on these
groups for a long time I unfortunately can't agree.


I'm sure you see it that way, and there might even be some degree of truth in
what you're saying, but after watching your posting on these groups for a long
time, I unfortunately cannot agree.

If, for example, you put forth in comment what you have said here in
this post about pilots as an isolated and pertinent comment and that
comment was backed up by enough experience flying to make your comment
viable, I could see that.


Maybe it's time to stop worrying about pilots and start talking about
aviation.

But you instead make these negative comments about pilots incessantly.


I see self-proclaimed pilots making negative comments about me all the time;
you don't seem too worried about that.

And I don't make negative comments about pilots in general, although I do make
unflattering observations about some of the losers who continually whine in
these aviation groups.

Anyone can put forth a generalization such as "there are pilots who
aren't as expert in aviation as they'd like to believe". *Of course
there are, as there are as well pilots in aviation who are a great
deal MORE expert in aviation than they like to convey to others.


It seems that the ones who are less proficient tend to talk a lot louder and
longer than the ones who are more proficient. Unfortunately for them, I'm not
impressed or swayed by loud, long talkers.

I verify everything people tell me here. If other sources back up a poster, I
add points to his reputation in my book. If he's way off the mark, I scratch
him off the list. A lot of people here are consistently off the mark. They are
far more interested in shouting me down than in actually looking things up to
make sure they are right. But that's the way it usually goes in cyberspace.
It's always the low end of the curve that makes the most noise.

You seem a bit on the irritable side yourself. You get upset if people
disagree with you, although you are civil otherwise. Maybe you need to work on
anger management. I never get upset.


PLEASE! I wasn't born yesterday, and I didn't just fall off the end of
an apple cart :-))))))))))))))
Never getting upset with you is a tool not a positive trait. In my
opinion it's simply part and parcel of your carefully chosen Usenet
"persona". I've watched this coming from you now for a long enough
period to more than get a positive read on you. By not "getting
upset", you simply wade through the virtual tons of negative responses
you carefully generate and achieve what you apparently view as a
"victory" against your antagonists. By doing this you obviously
believe you are in your mind anyway demonstrating to the world your
complete superiority over your adversaries; the pilots you so
obviously believe are your intellectual inferiors. :-)

As I said, you are entitled to your opinions on Usenet. I pop up from
time to time here and give you a shot of my own opinion, but I'm
completely aware of it's uselessness.
In a few more posts, I'll tire of you as I always have done in the
past and move on, simply one more "pilot" who has your number has had
enough of you for one day.ionso
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Dudley Henriques
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Old May 17th 10, 05:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ari[_2_]
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On Mon, 17 May 2010 05:20:47 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:

Never getting upset with you is a tool not a positive trait. In my
opinion it's simply part and parcel of your carefully chosen Usenet
"persona". I've watched this coming from you now for a long enough
period to more than get a positive read on you. By not "getting
upset", you simply wade through the virtual tons of negative responses
you carefully generate and achieve what you apparently view as a
"victory" against your antagonists.


At least one of many /gets it/.

The rest of you are either bored ****less or total fools...or both.
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!
http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!
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Old May 18th 10, 01:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Richard[_11_]
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On May 17, 11:40*am, Ari wrote:
On Mon, 17 May 2010 05:20:47 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:
Never getting upset with you is a tool not a positive trait. In my
opinion it's simply part and parcel of your carefully chosen Usenet
"persona". I've watched this coming from you now for a long enough
period to more than get a positive read on you. By not "getting
upset", you simply wade through the virtual tons of negative responses
you carefully generate and achieve what you apparently view as a
"victory" against your antagonists.


At least one of many /gets it/.

The rest of you are either bored ****less or total fools...or both.
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!


True dat.

Makes me miss the happy days when the Bunyip was delivering
smackdowns. *sigh*.
  #6  
Old May 18th 10, 04:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
a[_3_]
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On May 18, 8:01*am, Richard wrote:
On May 17, 11:40*am, Ari wrote:

On Mon, 17 May 2010 05:20:47 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:
Never getting upset with you is a tool not a positive trait. In my
opinion it's simply part and parcel of your carefully chosen Usenet
"persona". I've watched this coming from you now for a long enough
period to more than get a positive read on you. By not "getting
upset", you simply wade through the virtual tons of negative responses
you carefully generate and achieve what you apparently view as a
"victory" against your antagonists.


At least one of many /gets it/.


The rest of you are either bored ****less or total fools...or both.
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!


Richard wrote

Makes me miss the happy days when the Bunyip was delivering
smackdowns. **sigh*.



What killed this group was not the MX related stuff, but the ****ing
contest bynyip et al had started and others with their sock puppets
enthusiastically continued. An objective reader would find far greater
aviation content in the 'pilots ****ed off at MX' days than those that
followed.

Take a look at the history -- it speaks (or prints) for itself.
'
  #7  
Old May 17th 10, 07:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Dudley Henriques writes:

Never getting upset with you is a tool not a positive trait.


Get upset is a positive trait, then? I have to disagree about that, too.

In my opinion it's simply part and parcel of your carefully
chosen Usenet "persona".


Actually, I'm not easily upset in real life, either. I often have to
exaggerate or invent emotion in order to get people to take me seriously, as
they assume I cannot be serious about something unless I'm emotional about it.

I've watched this coming from you now for a long enough
period to more than get a positive read on you. By not "getting
upset", you simply wade through the virtual tons of negative responses
you carefully generate and achieve what you apparently view as a
"victory" against your antagonists.


I think that keeping a cool head is a victory in just about any situation. If
you are carried away by your emotions, bad things tend to happen ...
especially when you are flying a plane (just to try to keep the discussion
connected to aviation).

By doing this you obviously
believe you are in your mind anyway demonstrating to the world your
complete superiority over your adversaries; the pilots you so
obviously believe are your intellectual inferiors. :-)


They are not necessarily my intellectual inferiors. But if they panic in an
airplane the way they fly off the handle here, they are accidents waiting to
happen. And if I had no conscience, people like them would make me a
billionaire.
  #8  
Old May 17th 10, 01:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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On May 17, 5:35*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Dudley Henriques writes:
I'm sure you see it this way, and there might even be some degree of
truth in what you're saying but after watching your posting on these
groups for a long time I unfortunately can't agree.


I'm sure you see it that way, and there might even be some degree of truth in
what you're saying, but after watching your posting on these groups for a long
time, I unfortunately cannot agree.

If, for example, you put forth in comment what you have said here in
this post about pilots as an isolated and pertinent comment and that
comment was backed up by enough experience flying to make your comment
viable, I could see that.


Maybe it's time to stop worrying about pilots and start talking about
aviation.

But you instead make these negative comments about pilots incessantly.


I see self-proclaimed pilots making negative comments about me all the time;
you don't seem too worried about that.

And I don't make negative comments about pilots in general, although I do make
unflattering observations about some of the losers who continually whine in
these aviation groups.

Anyone can put forth a generalization such as "there are pilots who
aren't as expert in aviation as they'd like to believe". *Of course
there are, as there are as well pilots in aviation who are a great
deal MORE expert in aviation than they like to convey to others.


It seems that the ones who are less proficient tend to talk a lot louder and
longer than the ones who are more proficient. Unfortunately for them, I'm not
impressed or swayed by loud, long talkers.

I verify everything people tell me here. If other sources back up a poster, I
add points to his reputation in my book. If he's way off the mark, I scratch
him off the list. A lot of people here are consistently off the mark. They are
far more interested in shouting me down than in actually looking things up to
make sure they are right. But that's the way it usually goes in cyberspace.
It's always the low end of the curve that makes the most noise.

You seem a bit on the irritable side yourself. You get upset if people
disagree with you, although you are civil otherwise. Maybe you need to work on
anger management. I never get upset.


PLEASE! I wasn't born yesterday, and I didn't just fall off the end of
an apple cart :-))))))))))))))
Never getting upset with you is a tool not a positive trait. In my
opinion it's simply part and parcel of your carefully chosen Usenet
"persona". I've watched this coming from you now for a long enough
period to more than get a positive read on you. By not "getting
upset", you simply wade through the virtual tons of negative responses
you carefully generate and achieve what you apparently view as a
"victory" against your antagonists. By doing this you obviously
believe you are in your mind anyway demonstrating to the world your
complete superiority over your adversaries; the pilots you so
obviously believe are your intellectual inferiors. :-)

As I said, you are entitled to your opinions on Usenet. I pop up from
time to time here and give you a shot of my own opinion, but I'm
completely aware of it's uselessness.
In a few more posts, I'll tire of you as I always have done in the
past and move on, simply one more "pilot" who has your number has had
enough of you for one day.
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Dudley Henriques
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Old May 17th 10, 06:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
VOR-DME[_3_]
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In article
In a few more posts, I'll tire of you as I always have done in the
past and move on, simply one more "pilot" who has your number has had
enough of you for one day.
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Dudley Henriques




You are correct. The only thing that could be a greater waste of time than
getting into a tit-for-tat semantic thumb-twiddling competition with this
contributor is to try to have a serious conversation with him. Did you ever
try agreeing with him? I am the first to recognize the things he does know
about aviation, and to post agreement when I actually do agree, but these
posts never elicit a response, and never go further, because he is not here to
share. He is here to pick at people, to belittle others who have far greater
experience than he. If you make an argument he cannot counter, he hides behind
an insipid ruse, _Explain what you mean by_... trying to get something else to
dig into. He understands that pilots have worked hard to achieve what they
have, and they have far greater motivation than he could ever muster, so he
sees them as easy targets for belittlement, and takes a truly perverse
pleasure in the outrage he is able to inspire by insulting unsuspecting
targets.

It is a safe bet that this contributor is playing similar vindictive games on
other sites where professionals congregate, telling doctors, lawyers,
investors or other experts they do not know what they are talking about.


  #10  
Old May 17th 10, 06:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
a[_3_]
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On May 17, 1:10*pm, VOR-DME wrote:
In article

In a few more posts, I'll tire of you as I always have done in the
past and move on, simply one more "pilot" who has your number has had
enough of you for one day.
:-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))
Dudley Henriques


You are correct. The only thing that could be a greater waste of time than
getting into a tit-for-tat *semantic thumb-twiddling competition with this
contributor is to try to have a serious conversation with him. Did you ever
try agreeing with him? I am the first to recognize the things he does know
about aviation, and to post agreement when I actually do agree, but these
posts never elicit a response, and never go further, because he is not here to
share. He is here to pick at people, to belittle others who have far greater
experience than he. If you make an argument he cannot counter, he hides behind
an insipid ruse, _Explain what you mean by_... trying to get something else to
dig into. He understands that pilots have worked hard to achieve what they
have, and they have far greater motivation than he could ever muster, so he
sees them as easy targets for belittlement, and takes a truly perverse
pleasure in the outrage he is able to inspire by insulting unsuspecting
targets.

It is a safe bet that this contributor is playing similar vindictive games on
other sites where professionals congregate, telling doctors, lawyers,
investors or other experts they do not know what they are talking about.


If you examine the history of MX, you'll learn in real life he seems
to be a 40 something year old scraping together a living in Paris. He
some time ago indicated he spent something the order of a kilohour
using MSFS in a year.

The picture that develops is of an ex-patriot American living in a not
very attractive part part of Paris, spending much of his time seeking
to establish himself as a peer or better here. I doubt exchanging text
with him will alter his on-line persona.

This is unlikely, but funny to think about. "MX" could be a precocious
(by now an older) teenager who gets off on successfully getting
attention, or quite an accomplished pilot playing at being this
character. The reality is probably the one mentioned earlier. I don't
know any real life pilot who denies enjoying the visceral sensations
of flight: those are not felt in a desk chair.

 




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