Diamond goal flight rejected due to typo

On Jun 12, 8:55*am, Frank wrote:
On Jun 12, 8:18*am, T8 wrote:

On Jun 11, 10:01*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:

*FAILURE TO FOLLOW THIS REQUIREMENT TO ENTER THE
GLIDER N-NUMBER FOR GLIDERID INSTEAD OF A CONTEST ID WILL RESULT IN
THE DENIAL OF THE BADGE CLAIM."

But it would just be so much simpler to eliminate this totally useless
requirement.

-T8

It would be even simpler to tell the IGC to take a hike, and tell the
badge lady to quit rejecting badge and record claims over
technicalities. *If the IGC wants to go to the trouble of rejecting
claims that the SSA has already approved, let them. *I'll bet $10 that
the IGC (remember, its just another big, bloated bureaucracy filled
with people who don't like doing work) will never trouble itself.
After all, if it is clear that the flight actually happened, and any
technical difficulties with the declaration can be cleared up with a
few emails, then that should do it.

If the IGC *does* object to common sense, then its time to drop the
IGC entirely and go our own way with badges and records. *I could care
less if a badge award says 'FAI' or 'SSA' - does anyone else in the
U.S.?

Frank

But that would be too simple. After all isn't the objective to make it
as difficult as possible? The actual flight is just a tiny part of the
overall process. We need to focus on the big picture. Sometime times
it seems that when the joy of flying get old we turn to contests, when
that becomes old we turn ot the importance of contest rules and when
even that becomes boring we turn to the importance of dotting i's and
crossing your t's on badge claims.

On Jun 12, 4:16*pm, Gary Evans wrote:
On Jun 12, 8:55*am, Frank wrote:



On Jun 12, 8:18*am, T8 wrote:

On Jun 11, 10:01*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:

*FAILURE TO FOLLOW THIS REQUIREMENT TO ENTER THE
GLIDER N-NUMBER FOR GLIDERID INSTEAD OF A CONTEST ID WILL RESULT IN
THE DENIAL OF THE BADGE CLAIM."

But it would just be so much simpler to eliminate this totally useless
requirement.

-T8

It would be even simpler to tell the IGC to take a hike, and tell the
badge lady to quit rejecting badge and record claims over
technicalities. *If the IGC wants to go to the trouble of rejecting
claims that the SSA has already approved, let them. *I'll bet $10 that
the IGC (remember, its just another big, bloated bureaucracy filled
with people who don't like doing work) will never trouble itself.
After all, if it is clear that the flight actually happened, and any
technical difficulties with the declaration can be cleared up with a
few emails, then that should do it.

If the IGC *does* object to common sense, then its time to drop the
IGC entirely and go our own way with badges and records. *I could care
less if a badge award says 'FAI' or 'SSA' - does anyone else in the
U.S.?

Frank

But that would be too simple. After all isn't the objective to make it
as difficult as possible? The actual flight is just a tiny part of the
overall process. We need to focus on the big picture. Sometime times
it seems that when the joy of flying get old we turn to contests, when
that becomes old we turn ot the importance of contest rules and when
even that becomes boring we turn to the importance of dotting i's and
crossing your t's on badge claims.

I trust this is tongue-in-cheek. It is about flying and not about
being anal-retentive.
Of course, the documentation has to prove that the flight was made; I
well remember
that a person faked a badge flight back in the 1960's, was proven by
weather records
to have faked the flight, and the badge was withdrawn. (If you have
old enough SSA
Directories you can look this up to find the vacated number and the
name.)

Beyond proving the flight is real and meets the requirements for
altitude and distance,
nothing more is needed. We don't need the trickiness of contest rules
to document
badge flights. If that gets boring fly contests or longer, higher,
faster flights. Don't drag
the fussiness of contest rules into non-competitive flying. Are we
pilots, or are we
pencil sharpeners?
pencils?

On Jun 12, 2:26*pm, None wrote:
On Jun 12, 4:16*pm, Gary Evans wrote:





On Jun 12, 8:55*am, Frank wrote:

On Jun 12, 8:18*am, T8 wrote:

On Jun 11, 10:01*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:

*FAILURE TO FOLLOW THIS REQUIREMENT TO ENTER THE
GLIDER N-NUMBER FOR GLIDERID INSTEAD OF A CONTEST ID WILL RESULT IN
THE DENIAL OF THE BADGE CLAIM."

But it would just be so much simpler to eliminate this totally useless
requirement.

-T8

It would be even simpler to tell the IGC to take a hike, and tell the
badge lady to quit rejecting badge and record claims over
technicalities. *If the IGC wants to go to the trouble of rejecting
claims that the SSA has already approved, let them. *I'll bet $10 that
the IGC (remember, its just another big, bloated bureaucracy filled
with people who don't like doing work) will never trouble itself.
After all, if it is clear that the flight actually happened, and any
technical difficulties with the declaration can be cleared up with a
few emails, then that should do it.

If the IGC *does* object to common sense, then its time to drop the
IGC entirely and go our own way with badges and records. *I could care
less if a badge award says 'FAI' or 'SSA' - does anyone else in the
U.S.?

Frank

But that would be too simple. After all isn't the objective to make it
as difficult as possible? The actual flight is just a tiny part of the
overall process. We need to focus on the big picture. Sometime times
it seems that when the joy of flying get old we turn to contests, when
that becomes old we turn ot the importance of contest rules and when
even that becomes boring we turn to the importance of dotting i's and
crossing your t's on badge claims.

I trust this is tongue-in-cheek. *It is about flying and not about
being anal-retentive.
Of course, the documentation has to prove that the flight was made; I
well remember
that a person faked a badge flight back in the 1960's, was proven by
weather records
to have faked the flight, and the badge was withdrawn. (If you have
old enough SSA
Directories you can look this up to find the vacated number and the
name.)

Beyond proving the flight is real and meets the requirements for
altitude and distance,
nothing more is needed. *We don't need the trickiness of contest rules
to document
badge flights. *If that gets boring fly contests or longer, higher,
faster flights. *Don't drag
the fussiness of contest rules into non-competitive flying. Are we
pilots, or are we
pencil sharpeners?
pencils?- Hide quoted text -

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Back in the 60's someone was caught faking a badge flight? "O" my God
I didn't know that! Alright then even though it happened 40 years ago
we can't let that ever happen again. We need a new IGC committee to
tighten up those rule and claims.