Parowan midair?

I suppose the term 'low cost' is relative and depends upon whether you
compare it to the cost of your sailplane or your life.

Bob 7U

On Jun 21, 11:18*am, "Wayne Paul" wrote:
"Mike Schumann" wrote in ...
On 6/20/2010 8:23 PM, Andreas Maurer wrote:

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FLARM is useless unless everyone is equipped. *That is NOT going to
happen in the US. *Low cost ADS-B could be available tomorrow if the FAA
would certify the units. *NAVWORX and MITRE have working prototypes that
could go into production overnight if we can get the FAA to get off
their but.

We need to get people to send letters to Randy Babbitt to get some top
level attention to this. *It also wouldn't hurt to copy Craig Fuller at
AOPA. *They should be pushing this a LOT more agresively than they have.

--
Mike Schumann

Just courious, what do you consider "Low Cost." *Us guys with old inexpensive sailplanes would like to know.

Wayne

Bob,

I don't appreciate the smart remark

I really want to know. I fly what I can afford. If ADS-B becomes required equipment and is more then I can afford. I will have to leave the sport the sport I love.

Wayne

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"Bob 7U" wrote in message ...
I suppose the term 'low cost' is relative and depends upon whether you
compare it to the cost of your sailplane or your life.

Bob 7U

On Jun 21, 11:18 am, "Wayne Paul" wrote:
"Mike Schumann" wrote in ...
On 6/20/2010 8:23 PM, Andreas Maurer wrote:

... Snip ...



FLARM is useless unless everyone is equipped. That is NOT going to
happen in the US. Low cost ADS-B could be available tomorrow if the FAA
would certify the units. NAVWORX and MITRE have working prototypes that
could go into production overnight if we can get the FAA to get off
their but.

We need to get people to send letters to Randy Babbitt to get some top
level attention to this. It also wouldn't hurt to copy Craig Fuller at
AOPA. They should be pushing this a LOT more agresively than they have.

--
Mike Schumann

Just courious, what do you consider "Low Cost." Us guys with old inexpensive sailplanes would like to know.

Wayne

On Jun 21, 8:41*am, Bob 7U wrote:

I suppose the term 'low cost' is relative and depends upon whether you
compare it to the cost of your sailplane or your life.

Bob 7U

We have this exact same discussion on the rock climbing forums. The
corollary here is, how about all those $0.15 nuts and bolts in your
sailplane? Isn't your life worth more than that? Why aren't you using
$100, or better yet $1000 nuts and bolts custom manufactured and
individually tested and certified to the most stringent certification
standards?

Thanks, Bob K.

On Jun 21, 2:10*pm, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
On Jun 21, 8:41*am, Bob 7U wrote:

I suppose the term 'low cost' is relative and depends upon whether you
compare it to the cost of your sailplane or your life.

Bob 7U

We have this exact same discussion on the rock climbing forums. The
corollary here is, how about all those $0.15 nuts and *bolts in your
sailplane? Isn't your life worth more than that? Why aren't you using
$100, or better yet $1000 nuts and bolts custom manufactured and
individually tested and certified to the most stringent certification
standards?

Thanks, Bob K.

not to mention trusting your life to some crazy guy who built a glider
in his garage...

not to mention trusting your life to some crazy guy who built a glider
in his garage...


Now that was funny! I'm sure Bob will come back with a nice, sharp
response.


Back to the serious aspect of this discussion. I just don't see this
as "black or white" as most others do. If I were involved in a
collision, I'd be so puckered up the damaged ship would probably be
safer than my skill, which would be seriously degraded by stress. I
guess I'd be looking to put it down as soon as possible with my hand
not far from the canopy eject handle the entire time. That's mostly
because I'm a low-timer and conservative by nature. I'm sure that a
cooler head in this type of situation comes with experience. Who am I
to judge someone way more experienced than me flying in this
circumstance. Over hostile terrain no less. I'm glad no one was hurt.


Dave

On Jun 21, 12:28*pm, Tony wrote:
On Jun 21, 2:10*pm, Bob Kuykendall wrote:

On Jun 21, 8:41*am, Bob 7U wrote:

I suppose the term 'low cost' is relative and depends upon whether you
compare it to the cost of your sailplane or your life.

Bob 7U

We have this exact same discussion on the rock climbing forums. The
corollary here is, how about all those $0.15 nuts and *bolts in your
sailplane? Isn't your life worth more than that? Why aren't you using
$100, or better yet $1000 nuts and bolts custom manufactured and
individually tested and certified to the most stringent certification
standards?

Thanks, Bob K.

not to mention trusting your life to some crazy guy who built a glider
in his garage...

hey, I resemble that remark!

On Jun 21, 12:28*pm, Tony wrote:
On Jun 21, 2:10*pm, Bob Kuykendall wrote:

On Jun 21, 8:41*am, Bob 7U wrote:

I suppose the term 'low cost' is relative and depends upon whether you
compare it to the cost of your sailplane or your life.

Bob 7U

We have this exact same discussion on the rock climbing forums. The
corollary here is, how about all those $0.15 nuts and *bolts in your
sailplane? Isn't your life worth more than that? Why aren't you using
$100, or better yet $1000 nuts and bolts custom manufactured and
individually tested and certified to the most stringent certification
standards?

Thanks, Bob K.

not to mention trusting your life to some crazy guy who built a glider
in his garage...

If I'm not mistaken, Bob has two rented shop bays. Certainly this
will result in a far safer airplane than one being build in a garage.