Co-pilot gets sick, stewardess helps land airplane

On Jun 23, 11:16*am, Mxsmanic wrote:

It's a judgment call. Spin practice is no longer required because more pilots
were dying from spins during training than were dying from spins during flight
thereafter. The cure was worse than the disease. So the emphasis was shifted
to avoiding spins, rather than recovering from them, at least for PPLs.

Bull****. Plain and simple.
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ60fitlU70
Best you stay in your cupboard in Paris and leave the rest of us to
get out there and actually do things

george writes:

Bull****. Plain and simple.
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ60fitlU70

All I see is a stupid pilot violating Federal air regulations and
overstressing his (rented?) aircraft.

On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:40:59 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

george writes:

Bull****. Plain and simple.
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ60fitlU70

All I see is a stupid pilot violating Federal air regulations and
overstressing his (rented?) aircraft.

Again you display your actual lack of knowledge and willingness
to display it in public. First, there is no FAR prohibiting the
demonstration or practice of doing spins. Second, as anyone who
has done a spin is aware, there is hardly any structural stress
in a spin. In fact, once you get used to the fact that the earth
seems to be rotating very fast in front of you it's all rather
peaceful without any apparent extra G-forces save maybe a bit of
leaning in your seat.

The normal procedure is to work the controls until you have the
plane in a spiral and then just fly out of it; there is very
little structural stress involved unless you let yourself get too
close to the ground before pulling out and find yourself yanking
the yoke or joystick back too hard (a manouever that will not get
you out of a spin and will just make things worse).

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In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:

Bull****. Plain and simple.
See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ60fitlU70

All I see is a stupid pilot violating Federal air regulations and
overstressing his (rented?) aircraft.

All you see is delusion.

There is no FAR that prohibts doing spins and spins, unless very improperly
done, are not high stress manuevers.


--
Jim Pennino

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On Jun 24, 8:40*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:
*Bull****. Plain and simple.
*Seehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQ60fitlU70

All I see is a stupid pilot violating Federal air regulations and
overstressing his (rented?) aircraft.

How is CTC violating Federal Air Regulations?
They are training pilots to CPL standard in New Zealand.
And you should know that spinning an aircraft doesn't overstress it
either in the spin or recovery...

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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As I've said, a lot of private pilots seem to give physical sensations
priority over everything else. But there's a lot more to flying than a
roller-coaster ride. I don't care much for the physical sensations
myself,
although takeoff and landing are kind of pleasant if they are smooth.

What physical sensations are you referring to? You don't fly and you know
nothing about flying. You just play a computer game in your cupboard in
Paris.
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JohnT

JohnT writes:

What physical sensations are you referring to?

All of them. Some people are very into strong sensations.

You don't fly and you know nothing about flying.

I have flown in airplanes many times. The sensations felt by pilots are
identical to those felt by passengers.

On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:42:15 +0200, Mxsmanic
wrote:

JohnT writes:

What physical sensations are you referring to?

All of them. Some people are very into strong sensations.

Indeed. That goes without saying. Theme parks are full of them.

You don't fly and you know nothing about flying.

I have flown in airplanes many times. The sensations felt by pilots are
identical to those felt by passengers.

Except the pilots have to deal with it and aren't allowed to
cower in their sets.

Of course it goes without saying that there are a number of
sensations that one can have when when piloting a plane smaller
than a 707 that airline passengers rarely experience, and when
they do it tends to be one of their last sensations.

Since your actual flying experience consists of being a passenger
on on large airliners it would serve you well to restrict your
comments to that experience.

By the way I've been a passenger on some smaller aircraft with
maybe ten or eleven seats, and the sensations are quite a bit
different than when a passenger on a 747.

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************* DAVE HATUNEN ) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *

In rec.aviation.piloting Mxsmanic wrote:
JohnT writes:

What physical sensations are you referring to?

All of them. Some people are very into strong sensations.

You don't fly and you know nothing about flying.

I have flown in airplanes many times. The sensations felt by pilots are
identical to those felt by passengers.

Yeah, sure.

What you gloss over is that airline pilots take great care to minimize any
sensations felt by passengers because it tends to scare them and make them
not want to fly that airline again.


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Jim Pennino

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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I have flown in airplanes many times. The sensations felt by pilots are
identical to those felt by passengers.

How could you possibly know that as you have never ever flown any aircraft?
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JohnT