Why We Lost The Vietnam War

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Iain Rae wrote:
Spiv wrote:
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The Chinese bought the VC10. In 1980 they ordered more planes after being
fully satisfied with the planes performance and running costs. Vickers were
facing opened up the production line after 11 years.

have you got a cite for that I've never heard of the chinese operating
the VC10 never mind trying to buy more (apart from anything else I'd
have half expected the RAF to but new airframes if the production line
was opening up again).

I think he's thinking of the De Havilland Trident, which the Chinese
certainly used extensively (and built under licence). Pretty sure the
VC10 wsn't sold there (or many other places [1]).

[1] Though the Ilyshin-62 certainly suggests - by eye at least - that
someone had taken a long, hard look at a Super VC10 before picking
up their pencil.

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and eternity has begun" (Dylan Thomas)

"ANDREW ROBERT BREEN" wrote in message
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[1] Though the Ilyshin-62 certainly suggests - by eye at least - that
someone had taken a long, hard look at a Super VC10 before picking
up their pencil.

I have a suggestion about the Ilyshin-62, *stay away*. I flew on a CSA
Il-62 out of Beirut in 1993. The seating, even in first class, was like
being strapped into a lawn chair. The pitch of the seats was generous,
but you could not reach the seat pocket without unbuckling your seat
belt. The baggage handlers put my dog and her crate in the passenger
cabin with us because they could not be sure of she would not freeze in
the hold.
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
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"Andrew Chaplin" wrote in message ...
"ANDREW ROBERT BREEN" wrote in message
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[1] Though the Ilyshin-62 certainly suggests - by eye at least - that
someone had taken a long, hard look at a Super VC10 before picking
up their pencil.

I have a suggestion about the Ilyshin-62, *stay away*. I flew on a CSA
Il-62 out of Beirut in 1993. The seating, even in first class, was like
being strapped into a lawn chair. The pitch of the seats was generous,
but you could not reach the seat pocket without unbuckling your seat
belt. The baggage handlers put my dog and her crate in the passenger
cabin with us because they could not be sure of she would not freeze in
the hold.

The Czechs used to keep two fat guys on call to sit on either side of
Western passengers. One requirement was they eat their lunch just
before takeoff and outgass to relieve cabin pressure at regular
intervals. Not my experience but one of a very thin friend.

"Jack Linthicum" wrote in message
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The Czechs used to keep two fat guys on call to sit on either side of
Western passengers. One requirement was they eat their lunch just
before takeoff and outgass to relieve cabin pressure at regular
intervals. Not my experience but one of a very thin friend.

LOL

I sat with the journalist Robert Fisk on our way to Prague (he wasn't as
gassy as he is in print, but then, what might he have said of me?) and
with an attractive young Czech woman on the way to Mirabel (Gas? What
gas?).
--
Andrew Chaplin
SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO
(If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)