Patrick Smith admits small planes are unpleasant

On Jul 30, 7:56*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
And he illustrates one reason why I hesitate about bothering with a PPL:

The main reason is you don't have the ability..

george writes:

The main reason is you don't have the ability..

The main reasons are a lack of money and health, but there are other reasons
as well. With respect to this particular article, small aircraft tend to be
noisy, bumpy, and uncomfortable, and a PPL has little else to look forwards to
unless he has unlimited funds and time. Like Patrick Smith, I don't enjoy
being distracted by heat, noise, etc. I'm glad to see pilots admitting the
same.

On Jul 29, 5:16*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:
The main reason is you don't have the ability..

The main reasons are a lack of money and health, but there are other reasons
as well. With respect to this particular article, small aircraft tend to be
noisy, bumpy, and uncomfortable, and a PPL has little else to look forwards to
unless he has unlimited funds and time. Like Patrick Smith, I don't enjoy
being distracted by heat, noise, etc. I'm glad to see pilots admitting the
same.

Hell old buddy, if you think small airplanes are noisy you should
experience a takeoff in a P51. Now THAT'S noise!!
:-))

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:33:30 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:

On Jul 29, 5:16*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:
The main reason is you don't have the ability..

The main reasons are a lack of money and health, but there are other reasons
as well. With respect to this particular article, small aircraft tend to be
noisy, bumpy, and uncomfortable, and a PPL has little else to look forwards to
unless he has unlimited funds and time. Like Patrick Smith, I don't enjoy
being distracted by heat, noise, etc. I'm glad to see pilots admitting the
same.

Hell old buddy, if you think small airplanes are noisy you should
experience a takeoff in a P51. Now THAT'S noise!!
:-))

See what I mean.

Instead of lecturing about trolling with the troll, why not just,
simply, shut the **** up in the first place.

At least you don't end up looking like the hypocrite you are.
--
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http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

On Jul 29, 7:34*pm, Ari Silverstein wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:33:30 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:
On Jul 29, 5:16*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:
The main reason is you don't have the ability..

The main reasons are a lack of money and health, but there are other reasons
as well. With respect to this particular article, small aircraft tend to be
noisy, bumpy, and uncomfortable, and a PPL has little else to look forwards to
unless he has unlimited funds and time. Like Patrick Smith, I don't enjoy
being distracted by heat, noise, etc. I'm glad to see pilots admitting the
same.

Hell old buddy, if you think small airplanes are noisy you should
experience a takeoff in a P51. Now THAT'S noise!!
:-))

See what I mean.

Instead of lecturing about trolling with the troll, why not just,
simply, shut the **** up in the first place.

At least you don't end up looking like the hypocrite you are.
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

Hard to argue with the truth. If we look at the thread from the
beginning. Aside from your usual ad hominen post under mine, the very
first post directed to Mx's initial post reads as follows;
" The main reason is that you don't have the ability" EXACTLY as
predicted :-))
Mx's answer to this was of course as follows;

"The main reasons are a lack of money and health, but there are other
reasons
as well. With respect to this particular article, small aircraft tend
to be
noisy, bumpy, and uncomfortable, and a PPL has little else to look
forwards to
unless he has unlimited funds and time. Like Patrick Smith, I don't
enjoy
being distracted by heat, noise, etc. I'm glad to see pilots admitting
the
same. '

As we can see, Mx posts back to this personal attack with a calm,
laconic intelligent answer which serves him not one but TWO purposes.
He answers his antagonist with pertinent and on topic comment that for
all intent and purposes advances his position en passant while at the
same time conveying his underlying total contempt for his attacker by
completely ignoring the insult and refusing to engage a comment he
strongly believes is coming from someone well beneath his level of
intellect............................you know...........sort of what
I'm doing here with you. :-)
Dudley Henriques


...........an almost EXACT confirmation of my prediction for how this
thread will go and has gone. Nothing hyp

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:23:27 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:

On Jul 29, 7:34*pm, Ari Silverstein wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:33:30 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:
On Jul 29, 5:16*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:
The main reason is you don't have the ability..

The main reasons are a lack of money and health, but there are other reasons
as well. With respect to this particular article, small aircraft tend to be
noisy, bumpy, and uncomfortable, and a PPL has little else to look forwards to
unless he has unlimited funds and time. Like Patrick Smith, I don't enjoy
being distracted by heat, noise, etc. I'm glad to see pilots admitting the
same.

Hell old buddy, if you think small airplanes are noisy you should
experience a takeoff in a P51. Now THAT'S noise!!
:-))

See what I mean.

Instead of lecturing about trolling with the troll, why not just,
simply, shut the **** up in the first place.

At least you don't end up looking like the hypocrite you are.
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

Hard to argue with the truth. If we look at the thread from the
beginning. Aside from your usual ad hominen post under mine, the very
first post directed to Mx's initial post reads as follows;
" The main reason is that you don't have the ability" EXACTLY as
predicted :-))
Mx's answer to this was of course as follows;

"The main reasons are a lack of money and health, but there are other
reasons
as well. With respect to this particular article, small aircraft tend
to be
noisy, bumpy, and uncomfortable, and a PPL has little else to look
forwards to
unless he has unlimited funds and time. Like Patrick Smith, I don't
enjoy
being distracted by heat, noise, etc. I'm glad to see pilots admitting
the
same. '

As we can see, Mx posts back to this personal attack with a calm,
laconic intelligent answer which serves him not one but TWO purposes.
He answers his antagonist with pertinent and on topic comment that for
all intent and purposes advances his position en passant while at the
same time conveying his underlying total contempt for his attacker by
completely ignoring the insult and refusing to engage a comment he
strongly believes is coming from someone well beneath his level of
intellect............................you know...........sort of what
I'm doing here with you. :-)
Dudley Henriques

..........an almost EXACT confirmation of my prediction for how this
thread will go and has gone. Nothing hyp

One major, irrefutable and conclusive difference.

I only post to you.

You troll with the troll.

Poof, there goes your argument and on goes your hypocrisy cloak.
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!
http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

On Jul 29, 9:39*pm, Ari Silverstein wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:23:27 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:
On Jul 29, 7:34*pm, Ari Silverstein wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:33:30 -0700 (PDT), Dudley Henriques wrote:
On Jul 29, 5:16*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
george writes:
The main reason is you don't have the ability..

The main reasons are a lack of money and health, but there are other reasons
as well. With respect to this particular article, small aircraft tend to be
noisy, bumpy, and uncomfortable, and a PPL has little else to look forwards to
unless he has unlimited funds and time. Like Patrick Smith, I don't enjoy
being distracted by heat, noise, etc. I'm glad to see pilots admitting the
same.

Hell old buddy, if you think small airplanes are noisy you should
experience a takeoff in a P51. Now THAT'S noise!!
:-))

See what I mean.

Instead of lecturing about trolling with the troll, why not just,
simply, shut the **** up in the first place.

At least you don't end up looking like the hypocrite you are.
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

Hard to argue with the truth. If we look at the thread from the
beginning. Aside from your usual ad hominen post under mine, the very
first post directed to Mx's initial post reads as follows;
" The main reason is that you don't have the ability" EXACTLY as
predicted :-))
Mx's answer to this *was of course as follows;

"The main reasons are a lack of money and health, but there are other
reasons
as well. With respect to this particular article, small aircraft tend
to be
noisy, bumpy, and uncomfortable, and a PPL has little else to look
forwards to
unless he has unlimited funds and time. Like Patrick Smith, I don't
enjoy
being distracted by heat, noise, etc. I'm glad to see pilots admitting
the
same. '

As we can see, Mx posts back to *this personal attack with a calm,
laconic intelligent answer which serves him not one but *TWO purposes..
He answers his antagonist with pertinent and on topic comment that for
all intent and purposes advances his position en passant while at the
same time conveying his underlying total contempt for his attacker by
completely ignoring the insult and refusing to engage a comment he
strongly believes is coming from someone well beneath his level of
intellect............................you know...........sort of what
I'm doing here with you. :-)
Dudley Henriques

..........an almost EXACT confirmation of my prediction for how this
thread will go and has gone. Nothing hyp

One major, irrefutable and conclusive difference.

I only post to you.

You troll with the troll.

Poof, there goes your argument and on goes your hypocrisy cloak.
--
A fireside chat not with Ari!http://tr.im/holj
Motto: Live To Spooge It!

Please feel free to post to me anytime regardless of the intent. Hell,
I don't mind your constant derogatory remarks. Goes with Usenet.
I'll treat your on topic posts to me with the respect they deserve (if
you ever actually make any :-) and likewise treat your usual posts to
me with the respect that they deserve.
No sweat to me either way.
DH

Dudley Henriques writes:

Hell old buddy, if you think small airplanes are noisy you should
experience a takeoff in a P51. Now THAT'S noise!!

I'm not sure that I'd want to ride in one, but they sound very cool from a
distance. I've never taken much interest in riding inside a military fighter
aircraft, but they are often cool to look at (with ear protection). There are
some very tempting-looking payware add-on P-51s for Flight Simulator as well
(which I believe were originally pointed out to me by yourself).

On Jul 29, 11:56*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Dudley Henriques writes:
Hell old buddy, if you think small airplanes are noisy you should
experience a takeoff in a P51. Now THAT'S noise!!

I'm not sure that I'd want to ride in one, but they sound very cool from a
distance. I've never taken much interest in riding inside a military fighter
aircraft, but they are often cool to look at (with ear protection). There are
some very tempting-looking payware add-on P-51s for Flight Simulator as well
(which I believe were originally pointed out to me by yourself).

If you have a love for flight you would thoroughly enjoy flying in a
WW2 prop fighter like a Mustang. Even to experienced pilots flying a
Mustang for the first time is unique.
The sheer power on takeoff is unbelievable. Your ears in the cockpit
are just about lined up with the exhaust stacks and as I said, the
noise is horrendous.
The experience is so unique that you seldom will find a pilot or even
a non-pilot who would suddenly discover they like it. It's strange
really, but I can say with some degree of authority that in my own
experience anyway, those who love this experience came to it by choice
seeking it out. I know I did.
I was extremely fortunate in my career to have had the chance to fly
these airplanes. I've never regretted a moment I spent in them.
You're right about the P51 for the simulator. Watch the A2A
Simulations website if you're interested. They are developing for FSX
what I consider to be the definitive Mustang for the sim pilot. THis
aircraft will exhibit a flight model and graphics so deep into
fidelity and realism that I wouldn't hesitate to use it in checking
out a pilot in the P51D.
If I recall correctly I believe you favor flying other types of
airplanes in the sim, but if you ever do decide to purchase a WW2 prop
fighter for your simulator I'll be glad to help you out with tips on
flying it.
Dudley Henriques

Dudley Henriques writes:

If I recall correctly I believe you favor flying other types of
airplanes in the sim, but if you ever do decide to purchase a WW2 prop
fighter for your simulator I'll be glad to help you out with tips on
flying it.

Thanks. I've seen some videos on the A2A model on YouTube, and it looks very
daunting. I'm not good at managing engine parameters even in simpler aircraft.
But it might still be fun. I imagine it would be a change of pace for
controllers, too.