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On Aug 19, 6:19*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Aug 19, 8:19*am, Mike Schumann wrote: [snip] BTW I don't want to get sidetracked here but the current USA rules have not kept track with technology and as a result are strange in how they do not for example strictly prohibit an ADS-B traffic receiver (since it is not a "two-way communication device"), but by banning "two-way communication devices" they do currently prohibit Flarm based devices. As Dave says I suspect the rules committee understand the issues. Well darn I did get myself well sidetracked by typing this too fast. I meant to say that I think actual interpretation of the USA contest rules are strictly ambiguous. e.g. allowing two-way communication products that report position but not being clear whether that means reporting position our of the glider or into the glider or both. And an ADS-B receiver to use ADS-B direct data from other aircraft is currently allowed since it is not a two-way communication device. Anyhow clear that the contest rules folks need to work on cleaning up the rues whatever the future intent is. [snip] Darryl |
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On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:19:24 -0700, Darryl Ramm wrote:
BTW I don't want to get sidetracked here but the current USA rules have not kept track with technology and as a result are strange in how they do not for example strictly prohibit an ADS-B traffic receiver (since it is not a "two-way communication device"), but by banning "two-way communication devices" they do currently prohibit Flarm based devices. I'm realising there is another passive collision warning system that we use in the UK but I think may not be used as such in the USA - NOTAMS. Whenever there's something happening here that raises a significant collision risk such as a balloon festival, gliding competition or microlite rally it will be NOTAMed, giving the base airfield, number of participants and the area where significant numbers of participating aircraft may be found. This at least warns other pilots to be more vigilant in that area. I've noticed that NOTAMs seem to be much less used in the USA than they are here, so I'm wondering if your Regionals and national competitions are routinely NOTAMed. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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On 8/20/2010 8:04 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote:
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:19:24 -0700, Darryl Ramm wrote: BTW I don't want to get sidetracked here but the current USA rules have not kept track with technology and as a result are strange in how they do not for example strictly prohibit an ADS-B traffic receiver (since it is not a "two-way communication device"), but by banning "two-way communication devices" they do currently prohibit Flarm based devices. I'm realising there is another passive collision warning system that we use in the UK but I think may not be used as such in the USA - NOTAMS. Whenever there's something happening here that raises a significant collision risk such as a balloon festival, gliding competition or microlite rally it will be NOTAMed, giving the base airfield, number of participants and the area where significant numbers of participating aircraft may be found. This at least warns other pilots to be more vigilant in that area. I've noticed that NOTAMs seem to be much less used in the USA than they are here, so I'm wondering if your Regionals and national competitions are routinely NOTAMed. Anecdotally....a preliminary flight plan I did a month or two ago for Corpus Christi from Altus (SW Oklahoma) as depicted on sectionals using that handy service fltplan.com showed up with a flag because it crossed close by an airfield south of Dallas marked for an air display via a NOTAM. This approach beats paper modems easily - the planning service shows only NOTAMS relevant to the track... Brian W |
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On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 22:19:56 -0500, brian whatcott wrote:
On 8/20/2010 8:04 AM, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:19:24 -0700, Darryl Ramm wrote: BTW I don't want to get sidetracked here but the current USA rules have not kept track with technology and as a result are strange in how they do not for example strictly prohibit an ADS-B traffic receiver (since it is not a "two-way communication device"), but by banning "two-way communication devices" they do currently prohibit Flarm based devices. I'm realising there is another passive collision warning system that we use in the UK but I think may not be used as such in the USA - NOTAMS. Whenever there's something happening here that raises a significant collision risk such as a balloon festival, gliding competition or microlite rally it will be NOTAMed, giving the base airfield, number of participants and the area where significant numbers of participating aircraft may be found. This at least warns other pilots to be more vigilant in that area. I've noticed that NOTAMs seem to be much less used in the USA than they are here, so I'm wondering if your Regionals and national competitions are routinely NOTAMed. Anecdotally....a preliminary flight plan I did a month or two ago for Corpus Christi from Altus (SW Oklahoma) as depicted on sectionals using that handy service fltplan.com showed up with a flag because it crossed close by an airfield south of Dallas marked for an air display via a NOTAM. This approach beats paper modems easily - the planning service shows only NOTAMS relevant to the track... Fighting through a wad of paper is a nightmare. I'd be lost without my copy of NOTAMplot though I still have to read the unplottable ones. These days AIS, our official NOTAM source, manages to weed the stack to a mangeable size, but still doesn't plot them, and in consequence doesn't really help us glider drivers because you can only anchor its route briefings to licensed airfields, when we really need something like NOTAMplot, which understands turnpoints. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | Essex, UK org | |
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