General Patton on Lieutenant Kerry

Ancestry of George S. Patton

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George Smith Patton
1833-1869
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George Smith Patton, Jr.
1856-1927
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George Smith Patton III
[U.S. Army General]
-1945

Brooks, please note the the use of III.

Have a good day.

"cypher745" wrote
Ancestry of George S. Patton

George Smith Patton III
[U.S. Army General]
-1945

Brooks, please note the the use of III.

Have a good day.

Your source is in error. The WWI and WWII hero was "Jr."
His father changed his middle name from William to Smith, and
therefore was not a "Jr."

Your source is in error. The WWI and WWII hero was "Jr."
His father changed his middle name from William to Smith, and
therefore was not a "Jr."

The Biographical Dictionary of World War II confirms that the famous
(infamous, if you prefer) general was George Smith Patton, Junior.

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"cypher745" wrote in message
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snip incorrect garbage

Brooks, please note the the use of III.

Have a good day.

Check your sources, pal. Your batting average today ain't too hot, is it?

Brooks

Brooks,

Here is a link to my original source:

http://members.aol.com/dwidad/pattonped.html

And another one from the Patton society

http://www.pattonhq.com/pattontree.html

They both show the General patton of WWII fame as being the III.




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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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"cypher745" wrote in message
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Ancestry of George S. Patton

snip incorrect garbage

Brooks, please note the the use of III.

Have a good day.

Check your sources, pal. Your batting average today ain't too hot, is it?

Brooks

"cypher745" wrote in message
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Brooks,

Here is a link to my original source:

http://members.aol.com/dwidad/pattonped.html

And another one from the Patton society

http://www.pattonhq.com/pattontree.html

They both show the General patton of WWII fame as being the III.

They are wrong. Again, check your sources. Just because some yahoo has
incorrect information and posts it on a webpage does not make it right.
"Brassey's Encyclopedia of Military History and Biography", pp. 762-765 has
the correct idenitification as "Jr". The freaking US Army lists him as "Jr"
(www.knox.army.mil/center/g3/museum/gspatton.htm ). Then there is:

Ayer, Frederick. BEFORE THE COLORS FADE. PORTRAIT OF A SOLDIER: GENERAL
GEORGE S. PATTON, JR. With a foreword by Omar N. Bradley. Boston:
Houghton-Mifflin, 1964. 266 p. 940.54092 Aye.

Unless you think Omar Bradley did not know who he was? You, and your
sources, are wrong...get it?

Brooks

Brooks,


I think that we are both right.
He may have gone by Jr, but have been the third George Patton, or have gone
by Jr, and really have been the II.

If you look at the family tree from the Patton Society, you will notice that
his father's birth name was George William Patton. He later changed it to
George Smith Patton. The key Question here is when did he change his name?
If he changed it before the birth of our WWII hero, then his name is George
S Patton III. If he changed it afterwards, then his name is George S Patton
II with his grandfather being the first.

Technically this means, that the only way he could be a Jr. was if he was
indeed the III. Since, if his father's middle name was William at the time
of his birth he would not really be a Jr. You need to look no further than
our President and his dad to see that this is indeed the case.


Main Entry: 2junior
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, n. & adjective
1 a (1) : a person who is younger than another a man six years my junior
(2) : a male child : SON


As such the term Jr. would not apply between a grandfather and a grandson.








If you look at the source
"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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"cypher745" wrote in message
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Brooks,

Here is a link to my original source:

http://members.aol.com/dwidad/pattonped.html

And another one from the Patton society

http://www.pattonhq.com/pattontree.html

They both show the General patton of WWII fame as being the III.

They are wrong. Again, check your sources. Just because some yahoo has
incorrect information and posts it on a webpage does not make it right.
"Brassey's Encyclopedia of Military History and Biography", pp. 762-765
has
the correct idenitification as "Jr". The freaking US Army lists him as
"Jr"
(www.knox.army.mil/center/g3/museum/gspatton.htm ). Then there is:

Ayer, Frederick. BEFORE THE COLORS FADE. PORTRAIT OF A SOLDIER: GENERAL
GEORGE S. PATTON, JR. With a foreword by Omar N. Bradley. Boston:
Houghton-Mifflin, 1964. 266 p. 940.54092 Aye.

Unless you think Omar Bradley did not know who he was? You, and your
sources, are wrong...get it?

Brooks

"cypher745" wrote in message
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Main Entry: 2junior
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, n. & adjective
1 a (1) : a person who is younger than another a man six years my junior
(2) : a male child : SON


As such the term Jr. would not apply between a grandfather and a grandson.

Sure it could, common usage.

He may have gone by Jr, but have been the third George Patton, or have gone
by Jr, and really have been the II.

Naming doesn't happen that way. To be a Junior or II or III requires
that all your names be identical. That's why the 43rd president is not
George Bush Junior, though his father is also George Bush. The stuff
in between is different.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email:

see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com
and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com

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"cypher745" wrote:
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George Smith Patton, Jr.
1856-1927
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George Smith Patton III
[U.S. Army General]
-1945

Brooks, please note the the use of III.

Your elaborate family tree appears to need some editing:

From the beginning of http://www.generalpatton.com/biography.html

"BIOGRAPHY OF GENERAL GEORGE S. PATTON, JR.
One of the most complicated military men of all time, General George
Smith Patton, Jr. was born November 11, 1885 in San Gabriel, California."

Have a good day.

Heh.