Future Club Training Gliders

You guys throw around these ideas that we should just do away with
2-33 and train with new DG's and ASK21's. Have you ever considered how
many smaller clubs there are that cannot afford to do such a thing? If
you're willing to donate the money to our club for a new ASK21, we'd
be happy to accomodate your idea.

On Sep 15, 9:59*am, Westbender wrote:
You guys throw around these ideas that we should just do away with
2-33 and train with new DG's and ASK21's. Have you ever considered how
many smaller clubs there are that cannot afford to do such a thing? If
you're willing to donate the money to our club for a new ASK21, we'd
be happy to accomodate your idea.

exactly. i'm a member of two clubs and i dont think either one could
afford a new ASK, Duo, or DG if they sold all of their assets.

Well I suppose we could start charging $500 or $1000 to join and jack
up the monthly dues and flight fees. And watch most of our membership
disappear...

"Tony" wrote in message
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On Sep 15, 9:59 am, Westbender wrote:
You guys throw around these ideas that we should just do away with
2-33 and train with new DG's and ASK21's. Have you ever considered how
many smaller clubs there are that cannot afford to do such a thing? If
you're willing to donate the money to our club for a new ASK21, we'd
be happy to accomodate your idea.

exactly. i'm a member of two clubs and i dont think either one could
afford a new ASK, Duo, or DG if they sold all of their assets.

Small clubs in the UK usually use a K13, which I am told is a excellent
trainer.

On Sep 15, 8:59*am, Westbender wrote:
You guys throw around these ideas that we should just do away with
2-33 and train with new DG's and ASK21's. Have you ever considered how
many smaller clubs there are that cannot afford to do such a thing? If
you're willing to donate the money to our club for a new ASK21, we'd
be happy to accomodate your idea.

Yes, we have thought about it - a lot.

The reason smaller clubs can't afford anything but 2-33's is simply
BECAUSE THEY HAVE 2-33's! Their 'product' is so unappealing, they
can't attract members which is why these clubs are small and poor in
the first place. Dump 2-33's for ASK-21's and watch the sport grow.

I learned from Paul McCready the cheapest way to do anything is to do
it right in the first place. I'm a strong advocate of low cost glider
flying but 2-33's are 180 degrees the wrong way to go. The solution
to cheap flying is to 'do it right' with attractive gliders and a
winch operation.

On Sep 15, 12:57*pm, bildan wrote:
On Sep 15, 8:59*am, Westbender wrote:

You guys throw around these ideas that we should just do away with
2-33 and train with new DG's and ASK21's. Have you ever considered how
many smaller clubs there are that cannot afford to do such a thing? If
you're willing to donate the money to our club for a new ASK21, we'd
be happy to accomodate your idea.

Yes, we have thought about it - a lot.



Great! Email me offline and I'll give you the address to send the
check...

On Sep 15, 12:26*pm, Westbender wrote:
On Sep 15, 12:57*pm, bildan wrote:

On Sep 15, 8:59*am, Westbender wrote:

You guys throw around these ideas that we should just do away with
2-33 and train with new DG's and ASK21's. Have you ever considered how
many smaller clubs there are that cannot afford to do such a thing? If
you're willing to donate the money to our club for a new ASK21, we'd
be happy to accomodate your idea.

Yes, we have thought about it - a lot.

Great! Email me offline and I'll give you the address to send the
check...

An SSA Clubs & Chapters Committee 'best practice' is for clubs to
pursue a 501c(3) determination, making charitable donations possible.
At least 20 SSA chapters, including some of the largest, have such a
determination.

Forward planning saves a lot. See this Strategic Planning pdf
http://www.soaringchapters.org/conve...r_Clubs_V5.pdf

and this presentation on bringing your club into the 21st Century and
delivering on the promise of soaring. poor video, good audio and
content
http://www.soaringchapters.org/semin..._century21.wmv

Frank Whiteley