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![]() "Peter Stickney" wrote in message ... In article , (The Enlightenment) writes: (Peter Stickney) wrote in message ... In article , Dave Eadsforth writes: A few points here. In order to improve altitude performance, you've got to increase the compression ratio of the induction system, or add an axidizer to the fuel-air mix to help it burn. This can be done by adding supercharger stages (Basically one supercharger feeding another, like, say, a Merlin 60 series engine, or the turbosupercharger/engine driven blower setups on the P-47 and P-38, or piping something like Nitrous Oxide into the induction system, as the Germans did. Nitrous oxide was more a technique the Germans were forced into to help overcome a German disadvantage in high octane or high test aviation fuels rather than a paucity in thingking. No. Nitrous Oxide injection (GM1, in the German nomenclature) as used by the Germans, did not increase engine power below the critical altitude of the supercharger. It was used to increase the critical altitude of the engine, by increasing the partial pressure of oxygen in the fuel-air mixture. One of the drivers of the need for this system was the supercharger layout chosed for their large inline engines, the Daimler-Benz 60x series, and the Junkers Jumo 211 and 213. Instead of having a centrifugal blower mounted on the back of the engine, with air fed from directly behind, thus allowing for easy installation of a second supercharger stage, and the intercoolers that it requires to keep the charge temperature down, the Germans went for a transverse supercharger mounted transversely (cross-wise, if you will, with the supercharger impeller's axis at right abgles to the engine's crankshaft) fed from the side. This precluded a second supercharger stage without a lot of drag-prodicing external ducting. I though one reason the Germans didn't have two stage superchargers was because the lower levels of boost possible with their lower octane fuels and larger swept volumes simply made duel stage superchargers unnecessry or pointless. I also note that the Jumo 213E of the Ta 152H did have a two stage supercharger and an induction cooler so it must have been possible, possibly with coaxial shafts? The Jumo 213E also had an induction cooler which is presumably a cooling stage before the induction manifold unlike the two stage merlin which had the cooler between stages. I suspect that the intercooler of the merlin is more efficient while the induction cooler method produces a cooler charge. THe Daimlers also used a hydraylic variable speed coupling to drive the superchargers on the DB601, DB603, and DB605. This is a very neat idea. Ideally, it allows the supercharger to only draw off enough power to produce the desired manifold pressure, so that there is more power available at the propeller at altitude below the critical altitude of the engine. There are drawbacks to this - Becasue it had to operate ofer a wider speed range than gear-driven superchargers, the efficiency of the DVL superchargers on the Merceded engines was about 10-15% lower than those on, say, a Merlin or an Allison. I think that some specialist Me 109G, those with the DB605AS engine, were high altitude specialists. This was the superchager of the DB603 grafted onto to 603. The supercharger drive also isn't as efficient, with losses in the hydraulic system eating up about 3-4% of teh power needed to drive the supercharger - It's like the lesser efficiency of a car with an automatic transmission compared with th esame car with a manual transmission. This Mercedes system was apparently developed from an mercedes automatic transmision system for cars. The Germans _did_ use Anti-Detonant Injection (ADI, or MW50 in their nomenclature) to allow increased manifold pressures (And thus increased Horsepower) at lower altitudes. This was a 50/50 mix of Mathanol and Water, injected into the eye of teh supercharger impeller. It was used in some instances to make up the difference between the German Low-Octane Avgas (87 Octane), and their High Octane Avgas (96 Octane, not really high octane) in some engines, or to boost the power of the high octane-rated engines at low altitudes. The Germans did have techniques for manufacturing octane and even higher knock hydrocarbons their technology was however more cumberson than the US technology and this limited their production rate. Why this was I don't know. It may have had something to do with the fact that they had access to only snythetic oils from fischer tropsch and hydrogenation plants or their own small crude oil industry or Romania's all of which are regarded as poor quality crudes. (California crude was rather highly regarded). It may have just been that they were unaware of the US techniques. U.S. techniques were fairly widely known. Ethyl Gasoline had been available since the mid 1930s. Most of the high octane avgas impetus had come from Jimmy Doolittle at Shell. One would think that when teh Germans took Rotterdame and Copenhagen that they'd have turned up that information. Shell is a Dutch company, and their headquarters were in Rotterdam. (In fact, the Shell Building was used as a Headquarters building by the Germans.) The Germans had good chemistry and good chemists. The biggest industry in the world even today. As early as 1939-40 Goering was calling for the production of large quanties of high test avialtion fuels what came of this demand I don't know. I suspect that the effort of producing octane was such that they simply did not build their force around it. Synthetic fuel already cost 4 times the same as mineral oils. -- Pete Stickney A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. -- Daniel Webster |
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