Why We Lost The Vietnam War

"Brett" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote:

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Viscounts were used on similar runs in the UK unless the 70s too, until
being replaced by mainly BAC 1-11s (another brilliant little gem). Now
the
Viscount was a superb turboprop, being the first turboprop airliner in
the
world.

And you still haven't figured out what Brabazon Committee specifications
could have been considered a "success".

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(And you missed the Vanguard, as well. Brilliant planning, there.
Instead of concentrating on one type, (Brittania or Vanguard), and
thus having the potential of lowering the unit cost to the point where
people might buy them, you built two different competing aircraft, and
poisoned both projects.)

The Vanguard was made by a different company, Vickers,

Which had more experience with
..

They are two different companies. They never planed each others models. How
old are you?

"Spiv" wrote:
"Brett" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote:

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Viscounts were used on similar runs in the UK unless the 70s too,
until
being replaced by mainly BAC 1-11s (another brilliant little gem).
Now
the
Viscount was a superb turboprop, being the first turboprop airliner in
the
world.

And you still haven't figured out what Brabazon Committee specifications
could have been considered a "success".

...

(And you missed the Vanguard, as well. Brilliant planning, there.
Instead of concentrating on one type, (Brittania or Vanguard), and
thus having the potential of lowering the unit cost to the point
where
people might buy them, you built two different competing aircraft,
and
poisoned both projects.)

The Vanguard was made by a different company, Vickers,

Which had more experience with
..

They are two different companies. They never planed each others models.
How
old are you?

Old enough to know what experience Bristol had in building large airframes
in 1945. There was a reason they got the "job" and I will give you a clue it
wasn't because they offered the best existing large airframe design team or
had the best facilities for performing the task. As for how old, I am I can
remember when the Viscount was a new plane.

"Brett" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote:
"Brett" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote:

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Viscounts were used on similar runs in the UK unless the 70s too,
until
being replaced by mainly BAC 1-11s (another brilliant little gem).
Now
the
Viscount was a superb turboprop, being the first turboprop airliner
in
the
world.

And you still haven't figured out what Brabazon Committee
specifications
could have been considered a "success".

...

(And you missed the Vanguard, as well. Brilliant planning, there.
Instead of concentrating on one type, (Brittania or Vanguard), and
thus having the potential of lowering the unit cost to the point
where
people might buy them, you built two different competing aircraft,
and
poisoned both projects.)

The Vanguard was made by a different company, Vickers,

Which had more experience with
..

They are two different companies. They never planed each others models.
How
old are you?

Old enough to know what experience Bristol had in building large airframes
in 1945. There was a reason they got the "job" and I will give you a clue
it
wasn't because they offered the best existing large airframe design team
or
had the best facilities for performing the task. As for how old, I am I
can
remember when the Viscount was a new plane.

Senility eh.

"Spiv" wrote:
"Brett" wrote in message

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Old enough to know what experience Bristol had in building large
airframes
in 1945. There was a reason they got the "job" and I will give you a
clue
it
wasn't because they offered the best existing large airframe design team
or
had the best facilities for performing the task. As for how old, I am I
can
remember when the Viscount was a new plane.

Senility eh.

The Viscount was in production (a new plane) until 1964, so while you might
not have been born for another 30 years I had my first flight in one when I
was 6, on my way to the German GP in 1961. btw. I see you still haven't
figured out what Brabazon Committee specifications could have been
considered a "success".

"Brett" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote:
"Brett" wrote in message

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Old enough to know what experience Bristol had in building large
airframes
in 1945. There was a reason they got the "job" and I will give you a
clue
it
wasn't because they offered the best existing large airframe design
team
or
had the best facilities for performing the task. As for how old, I am
I
can
remember when the Viscount was a new plane.

Senility eh.

The Viscount was in production (a new plane) until 1964, so while you
might
not have been born for another 30 years I had my first flight in one when
I
was 6, on my way to the German GP in 1961. btw. I see you still haven't
figured out what Brabazon Committee specifications could have been
considered a "success".

You were told 111. now look.

"Spiv" wrote in message
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I
was 6, on my way to the German GP in 1961. btw. I see you still haven't
figured out what Brabazon Committee specifications could have been
considered a "success".

You were told 111. now look.



Trouble is that the Barabazon committee decided not to proceed
with the type III declaring it unimportant so while Bristol
had indeed done some design studies no aircraft was actually
produced.

BOAC in turn desparing at the spiralling red tape that was
effectively stifling development issued its own specn for
a Medium Range Empire Airliner (MRE) to replace its
Lockheed Constellations.

Five companies entered the bidding and the contract went to
Bristol with their submission, the type 175 Brittania.

Keith

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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I
was 6, on my way to the German GP in 1961. btw. I see you still
haven't
figured out what Brabazon Committee specifications could have been
considered a "success".

You were told 111. now look.



Trouble is that the Barabazon committee decided not to proceed
with the type III declaring it unimportant so while Bristol
had indeed done some design studies no aircraft was actually
produced.

The Britannia came from 111.

BOAC in turn desparing at the spiralling red tape that was
effectively stifling development issued its own specn for
a Medium Range Empire Airliner (MRE) to replace its
Lockheed Constellations.

Five companies entered the bidding and the contract went to
Bristol with their submission, the type 175 Brittania.