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Old February 4th 04, 12:00 PM
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Not if Greenland is included.

Which it isn't and isn't even in Europe.

Yet it is considered part of Denmark.


For a little while. Parties advocating independence won
the 2002 elections by a wide margin. There's going
to be a referendum and the island is expected to
achieve full independence in 2006.

Note that while Greenland is a large geographic area
the inhabitable regions are a very small part of the
land mass and the population is less than that of
a medium sized town.


Keith the only one in this thread that needed (and most likely ignore)

that
information would be "Spiv".


It is irrelevant info. Greenland is NOT a part of Denmark, no more than
Gibraltar or the Falklands being a part of the UK. You obviously can't
understand this.


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Old February 4th 04, 01:02 PM
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It is irrelevant info. Greenland is NOT a part of Denmark, no more than
Gibraltar or the Falklands being a part of the UK. You obviously can't
understand this.



You are as usual incorrect. Greenlands current political situation
is that its a semi-atonomous region under the Danish Crown

Its electors vote in Danish Parliamentary elections and the
currency in use is the Danish Krone. Denmark retains control
of foreign affairs and defense. It is in fact in the same position as
Scotland and Wales , having a devolved assembly with limited
powers

from
http://www.um.dk/english/faktaark/fa24/fa24_eng.asp

Government type: Home rule in national union
with Denmark

In accordance with home rule, Greenland retains extensive
powers of self-government while remaining under the Danish Crown.
The Folketing (the Danish parliament) has transferred almost
all legislation to the Landsting (the Greenlandic parliament)
but the Folketing and the Danish administration retain control
over some areas of government. Greenland's voters elect two
representatives to the Folketing.

Language: Greenlandic and Danish
Currency: Danish krone (DKK)

Keith


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Old February 4th 04, 02:21 PM
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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It is irrelevant info. Greenland is NOT a part of Denmark, no more than
Gibraltar or the Falklands being a part of the UK. You obviously can't
understand this.



You are as usual incorrect. Greenlands current political situation
is that its a semi-atonomous region under the Danish Crown

Its electors vote in Danish Parliamentary elections and the
currency in use is the Danish Krone. Denmark retains control
of foreign affairs and defense. It is in fact in the same position as
Scotland and Wales , having a devolved assembly with limited
powers

from
http://www.um.dk/english/faktaark/fa24/fa24_eng.asp

Government type: Home rule in national union
with Denmark

In accordance with home rule, Greenland retains extensive
powers of self-government while remaining under the Danish Crown.
The Folketing (the Danish parliament) has transferred almost
all legislation to the Landsting (the Greenlandic parliament)
but the Folketing and the Danish administration retain control
over some areas of government. Greenland's voters elect two
representatives to the Folketing.

Language: Greenlandic and Danish
Currency: Danish krone (DKK)


That can be said for far away British possessions too. Geographically it is
not Denmark nor on the same Continent either.


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Old February 4th 04, 02:48 PM
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That can be said for far away British possessions too.


No sir, the British possessions are not constutionally part of the
United Kingdom, Greenland is for the moment at least
part of the Kingdom of Denmark

Geographically it is
not Denmark nor on the same Continent either.



Denmark is the geopolitical term for that collection of islands
and section of the European continent that make up the
kingdom of Denmark, one of those Islands is Greenland

In Geographical terms there are a bunch of islands in the
Baltic, Kattegat and the Jutland peninsula. The Northern tip
of said peninsula and some of the islands are Danish.
The southern end of the Peninsula is German as are
some of the islands.

Keith


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Old February 4th 04, 03:16 PM
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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That can be said for far away British possessions too.


No sir, the British possessions are not constutionally part of the
United Kingdom, Greenland is for the moment at least
part of the Kingdom of Denmark


As is Gibraltar I believe, to eliminate the word colony. Nevertheless,
neither Gib is part of the UK nor is Greenland a part of Denmark.
Dependencies, crown dominions, colonies, overseas territories, or whatever,
they are not a part of the their mother countries, although owned by them.
They are separate entities.

What you are saying make The Le reunion islands in the southern Indian Ocean
a part of France, the same geographical territory.

Geographically it is
not Denmark nor on the same Continent either.



Denmark is the geopolitical term for that collection of islands
and section of the European continent that make up the
kingdom of Denmark, one of those Islands is Greenland

In Geographical terms there are a bunch of islands in the
Baltic, Kattegat and the Jutland peninsula. The Northern tip
of said peninsula and some of the islands are Danish.
The southern end of the Peninsula is German as are
some of the islands.

Keith




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Old February 4th 04, 04:15 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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That can be said for far away British possessions too.


No sir, the British possessions are not constutionally part of the
United Kingdom, Greenland is for the moment at least
part of the Kingdom of Denmark


As is Gibraltar I believe, to eliminate the word colony.


I was very careful not to use the word colony

Nevertheless,
neither Gib is part of the UK nor is Greenland a part of Denmark.



Here lies the difference

Gibraltar is not part of the UK, its voters do not elect members
of the British parliament and it has its own currency , sets its own
taxation and in all ways ecept foreign affairs and defence is
completely independent

The electors of Greenland DO elect members to the Danish Parliament,
they use the Danish Kroner and are subject to Danish Law.
They are in fact LESS independent than is Scotland which has
its own Parliament, issues its own banknotes and has its own body
of law.

Dependencies, crown dominions, colonies, overseas territories, or

whatever,
they are not a part of the their mother countries, although owned by them.
They are separate entities.


There are considerable differences in status between a dominion,
colony and overseas territory but Greenland is NONE of the
above, politically it is a part of Denmark


What you are saying make The Le reunion islands in the southern Indian

Ocean
a part of France, the same geographical territory.


La Reunion is an overeas department of France, most residents
vehemently oppose independence. Its official currency is the Euro.
IT IS A PART of the geopolilitcal entity we call France. Its citizens
hold French passports, they use the Euro, Jacques Chirac is their president
etc.

France is NOT repeat NOT a geographical territory. Its
a political construct who's geographical boundaries have changed at
least 3 times since 1870. French Guiana is also a department of France
like any other but geographically it happens to lie in
Central America. Its citizens hold French passports, they
use the Euro, Jacques Chirac is their president etc.

Nation states are not synonymous with the real estate they
sit on. Denmark like the United Kingdom , Germany and
Poland is a POLITICAL entity NOT a geographical one.

Keith



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Old February 4th 04, 05:22 PM
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"Spiv" wrote in message
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That can be said for far away British possessions too.

No sir, the British possessions are not constutionally part of the
United Kingdom, Greenland is for the moment at least
part of the Kingdom of Denmark


As is Gibraltar I believe, to eliminate the word colony.


I was very careful not to use the word colony

Nevertheless,
neither Gib is part of the UK nor is Greenland a part of Denmark.



Here lies the difference

Gibraltar is not part of the UK, its voters do not elect members
of the British parliament and it has its own currency , sets its own
taxation and in all ways ecept foreign affairs and defence is
completely independent

The electors of Greenland DO elect members to the Danish Parliament,
they use the Danish Kroner and are subject to Danish Law.
They are in fact LESS independent than is Scotland which has
its own Parliament, issues its own banknotes and has its own body
of law.

Dependencies, crown dominions, colonies, overseas territories, or

whatever,
they are not a part of the their mother countries, although owned by

them.
They are separate entities.


There are considerable differences in status between a dominion,
colony and overseas territory but Greenland is NONE of the
above, politically it is a part of Denmark


What you are saying make The Le reunion islands in the southern Indian

Ocean
a part of France, the same geographical territory.


La Reunion is an overeas department of France, most residents
vehemently oppose independence. Its official currency is the Euro.
IT IS A PART of the geopolilitcal entity we call France. Its citizens
hold French passports, they use the Euro, Jacques Chirac is their

president
etc.

France is NOT repeat NOT a geographical territory. Its
a political construct who's geographical boundaries have changed at
least 3 times since 1870. French Guiana is also a department of France
like any other but geographically it happens to lie in
Central America. Its citizens hold French passports, they
use the Euro, Jacques Chirac is their president etc.

Nation states are not synonymous with the real estate they
sit on. Denmark like the United Kingdom , Germany and
Poland is a POLITICAL entity NOT a geographical one.


We can look at it the other way. The Isle of Man is not in the EU and has
some strange binding, non-binding link wit the UK. It is right in the
middle of the UK with the UK either side of it. It means nothing as it IS a
part of the UK by proximity.

La Reunion, Greenland, Gib, Falklands, Puerto Rico, Greenland etc are NOT a
part of their mother countries (the country that has sovereignty over them).
They are separate entities, irrespective of what they are politically
called.


 




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